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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #135 on: August 05, 2008, 09:42:54 PM »
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Solution: small, well guarded crops?

Greenhouses with guard dogs you haven't fed in a week.  :devil
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #136 on: August 05, 2008, 09:46:44 PM »
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #137 on: August 05, 2008, 09:49:27 PM »
Ever wonder where medical bud comes from?

http://www.prairieplant.com/biosecure-underground.htm

In the US and Canada :O
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #138 on: August 05, 2008, 09:52:01 PM »
And chemo is a lot more. IMO if you are going to smoke weed you may as well cut the damage it does as much as possible, and 400-ish is a small investment to do that.

Yea, most use a Bong or Houka filled with water thinking this protects them. But, most aerosol-ized impurities and suspended particulate from burning raw cannabis are not water soluble. It's better to fill it with diluted alcohol as that is more effective, the impurities tend to be more readily alcohol soluble. If you're feeling handy combine that with an activated carbon filter and you're going to get most of the really bad stuff. By the way, Marijuana has no more carcinogenic material than any other plant if you smoked it, you could smoke a dandelion and have the same issues to deal with. The psychoactive ingredient THC itself is not a carcinogen, it's all the other crap that all plants have that when burned aerosol-ize and are absorbed by the lungs.

A lot of people don't know this but there is a manufactured form of pure THC. It is available in capsule, liquid or pill form and is swallowed. It is only available for pure research sanctioned by the Federal Government, based on Marijuana's place as a Schedule I Narcotic. But, if it ever became legal there will be the smokeless option as well, although it is expensive to reduce to it's pure form and digestive enzymes breakdown and render inert a good portion of the psychoactive THC when ingested.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #139 on: August 05, 2008, 09:52:30 PM »
Ever wonder where medical bud comes from?

http://www.prairieplant.com/biosecure-underground.htm

In the US and Canada :O

Actually medical bud is even more powerful then the average Joe bud.

Yea, most use a Bong or Houka filled with water thinking this protects them. But, most aerosol-ized impurities and suspended particulate from raw cannabis are not water soluble. It's better to fill it with diluted alcohol as that is more effective, the impurities tend to be more readily alcohol soluble. If you're feeling handy combine that with an activated carbon filter and you're going to get most of the really bad stuff. By the way, Marijuana has no more carcinogenic material than any other plant if you smoked it, you could smoke a dandelion and have the same issues to deal with. The psychoactive ingredient THC itself is not a carcinogen, it's all the other crap that all plants have that when burned aerosol-ize and are absorbed by the lungs.

A lot of people don't know this but there is a manufactured form of pure THC. It is available in capsule, liquid or pill form and is swallowed. It is only available for pure research sanctioned by the Federal Government, based on Marijuana's place as a Schedule I Narcotic. But, if it ever became legal there will be the smokeless option as well, although it is expensive to reduce to it's pure form and digestive enzymes breakdown and render inert a good portion of the psychoactive THC when ingested.

It amazes me that this many people know so much about weed. :rock
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #140 on: August 05, 2008, 09:57:52 PM »
Actually medical bud is even more powerful then the average Joe bud.

It amazes me that this many people know so much about weed. :rock

Some claim Not.

http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/govtpot.html

I think it is just a matter of opinion. Same as wine or home made beer. :aok
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #141 on: August 05, 2008, 09:59:05 PM »
Actually medical bud is even more powerful then the average Joe bud.

It amazes me that this many people know so much about weed. :rock

Sure can be, a  lot of it's grown in laboratory conditions through hybridization, much like a hobbyist would grow it. But it would be impossible to mass produce it and maintain that kind of of quality. I've seen lab tests that showed 30%+ THC for plants grown in such controlled conditions. Keep in mind the average THC content of marijuana in the late 1960's was 3-8%. I live near Mexico, the "mass produced" marijuana around here is field grown, male plants are allowed to fertilize female plants. This lowers THC content as the female plant's energy goes to reproduction rather than producing THC rich resin.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #142 on: August 05, 2008, 10:01:43 PM »
Sure can be, a  lot of it's grown in laboratory conditions, much like a hobbyist would grow it. But it would be impossible to mass produce it and maintain that kind of of quality. I've seen lab tests that showed 30%+ THC for plants grown in such controlled conditions. I live near Mexico, the "mass produced" marijuana around here is field grown, male plants are allowed to fertilize female plants. This lowers THC content as the female plant's energy goes to reproduction rather than producing THC rich resin.


1 male can ruin a hole crop *snap* like that. Thats why if you grow your own(not suggesting you should) make sure to test the them and separate the males from the females.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #143 on: August 05, 2008, 10:02:54 PM »

1 male can ruin a hole crop *snap* like that. Thats why if you grow your own(not suggesting you should) make sure to test the them and separate the males from the females.

Yup, that's one reason it's a poor crop to mass produce if potency is important...
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« Reply #144 on: August 05, 2008, 10:03:41 PM »
Quality over quantity in my book. A little bit will get you a long way.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #145 on: August 05, 2008, 10:05:08 PM »
In BC here the Government was talking of mass producing the male fertilizer and then spray it over the province :(
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #146 on: August 05, 2008, 10:08:59 PM »
Quality over quantity in my book. A little bit will get you a long way.

Unless coughing up field hack phlem is fun for you save your lungs and go with quality...
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« Reply #147 on: August 05, 2008, 10:10:04 PM »
In BC here the Government was talking of mass producing the male fertilizer and then spray it over the province :(

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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #148 on: August 05, 2008, 10:11:09 PM »
I am smoking right now while reading this thread and that male spray stuff is a downer, man.
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Re: why is weed illigal???
« Reply #149 on: August 05, 2008, 11:04:48 PM »
I just got an "interesting" PM... :uhoh

I would like to point out that the information I provided was obtained largely from academic research I was involved in, not necessarily from direct personal experience with narcotic use or cultivation. I would also like to strongly enunciate the point that I am in no way advocating engaging in any criminal activity now or in the future. My intent was merely to promote discussion and inform for the purpose of entertainment. It is my personal belief it is human nature to experiment with altered states of consciousness in the pursuit of self-knowledge, with or without the use of psycoactive substances. I feel it is worse to let people proceed with that exploration in ignorance and risk them endangering their safety than to inform them and in so doing encourage responsible, sensible, good judgement. If my comments, observations or statements regarding illicit drug use were offensive to anyone I humbly apologize.
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