Saddleback forum: Obama and McCain answer Rick Warren

[Hangtime]

I cant even watch 5 minutes of tv anymore without a presidential BS ad getting stuffed down my neck

Stuffed down your neck till november, then up yer bunghole later. 

[Meatwad]

Stuffed down your neck till november, then up yer bunghole later. 

 

[midnight Target]

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Mr Warren asked when a "baby gets human rights"? Senator McCain did not hesitate. "At the moment of conception," he said. Senator Obama replied that from theological and scientific points of view, this question was "above my pay grade".


Yeah and that answer makes him sound so much smarter. At least McCain sticks to his beliefs and speaks his mind, Obama is more worried about saying anything wrong, so he says nothing with any substance at all.

Mr Warren didn't ask him what the theololigical or scientific community thought about the issue, Mr. Warren asked Sen Obama what HE thought about the issue, and got an artfull dodge in response. What a freaking wuss!!!! One time I'd like to see him man up and take a solid stand on SOMETHING!!!!

Well, I am more than ready to have a President who's best attribute is something more than having an opinion, right or wrong. The question was answered, he said he didn't know. McCain doesn't know either, but he is more than willing to spit out an opinion... I don't find that admirable in the least.

Additionally Obama flat out said he was pro-choice during the discussion. No dodge, no waffling... pro-choice.

[DREDIOCK]

I have to say, I do not agree with McCain's stance on abortion, but I liked his answer to the question much better

Couldnt be that much against it.
he is considering Tom Ridge (pro choice) for VP

was kinda surprised that revelation didnt get any thread time here.

All I know is as of yet I am undecided but dont really like either clown.

But

Should Mccain choose Ridge he looses my support entirely

[Hamltnblue]

Has anyone watched this one, or know where to find all of it online?  Apparently there were no teleprompters, the second candidate to answer a question (coin flip to pick) went to a sound-insulated room while the first one talked, and a clock was running to prevent rambles.  This is just the sort of thing that was suggested to gauge Obama without scripted questions, etc. 

Obama was looking down to his right the whole time. Might not have been a teleprompter but is was at least notes on paper which is the same thing.  The man is an empty suit.  Putin would love someone like him with the same views about Amerika.

[Hornet33]

Well, I am more than ready to have a President who's best attribute is something more than having an opinion, right or wrong. The question was answered, he said he didn't know. McCain doesn't know either, but he is more than willing to spit out an opinion... I don't find that admirable in the least.

Additionally Obama flat out said he was pro-choice during the discussion. No dodge, no waffling... pro-choice.

That's my ENTIRE point. McCain is at least willing to put his opinion out there. Obama isn't. I trust someone more that's willing to give me their honest opinion about something, even if I don't agree with it, than someone who is so afraid to tell me their opinion because they're afraid I might not like it.

[SkyRock]

I don't like the fact that people have abortions, but A woman should have the right to end an unwanted pregnancy within a certain time limit.  And anyone who thinks that two cells should have Human rights, is a nutcase!

[Elfie]

I don't like the fact that people have abortions, but A woman should have the right to end an unwanted pregnancy within a certain time limit.  And anyone who thinks that two cells should have Human rights, is a nutcase!

It is far more than two cells by the time she finds out she is pregnant. 

[midnight Target]

McCain said "from the moment of conception"... not "from the moment she knows she is pregnant".

[Toad]

Pastor Rick should have had a followup for Obamessiah.

When he said "above my pay grade" Pastor Rick should have said "Well, since you admit you don't know, doesn't make sense to give life the benefit of the doubt? You wouldn't kill a murderer on death row if you weren't absolutely sure of his guilt but you see to be willing to terminate a possible life that you are not absolutely sure is not a life." 

I'd have liked to see his Waffle House on that one.

[midnight Target]

That is just silly. We are all sure about the human rights of the mother. Shouldn't we err on the side of the known as opposed to the unknown?

[SkyRock]

It is far more than two cells by the time she finds out she is pregnant. 

McCain said from conception.

[WWhiskey]

[Waffle]

Obama from his fathers day speech:

"But we also need families to raise our children. We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception. We need them to realize that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child - it's the courage to raise one."

So if he says that a father's responsibility doesn't end at conception...does that mean there is a human to be responsible for?

complete speech:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/obamas_speech_on_fatherhood.html

[SkyRock]

Obama from his fathers day speech:

"But we also need families to raise our children. We need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end at conception. We need them to realize that what makes you a man is not the ability to have a child - it's the courage to raise one."

So if he says that a father's responsibility doesn't end at conception...does that mean there is a human to be responsible for?

complete speech:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/obamas_speech_on_fatherhood.html

O'bama is a tard, and McCain is a twit.