Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?

[sprattjack]

Actually, when you think of the shredding machine that the Clintons are capable of becoming, that is an accomplishment.  I assume that there was some outstanding counter-dirty-work required to be in play there which Obama was sly enough to not reveal to the public.  Would be an interesting story to hear about.

Give it 4 years. 

[Elfie]

Give it 4 years. 

Why? The Clinterds couldn't get it done this time, what makes you think they will be any more successful next go around?

[Dead Man Flying]

Vice President????????????

Would you consider the following presidents to all have been successful, wise presidents based on their experience as VP?

Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Bush Sr.?

Would you consider them superior to everyone else listed?

-- Todd/Leviathn

[texasmom]

I heard she after she became she laid off the cook at mansion and sold the govenors plane.
I think that shows just how shes gonna be working in Washington. Get rid of the pork and wastfull spending.

I think the security detail went the way of the wind also.

[Yeager]

Thanks for a further positive contribution to this thread!   

you catch on fast 

[Yeager]

This thread needs a nap.

Oh, to live on Sugar Mountain
With the barkers and the colored balloons,
You can't be twenty on Sugar Mountain
Though you're thinking that
you're leaving there too soon,
You're leaving there too soon.

[yanksfan]

A risky choice.  On the one hand, you can't connect her in any way with Bush or Washington.  She's truly a political outsider in that respect.  The downsides though potentially outweigh the upsides...

1)  She has limited political experience.  As the VP is only a heartbeat away from the presidency, her nomination undermines the McCain position that Obama is too inexperienced to become president.  If Obama is too inexperienced, what does that make Palin?

2)  Gender is not a strong predictor of vote choice.  If this was meant to woo female voters, or Clinton-leaning voters in particular, it will probably fail.  The strongest predictors of vote choice remain partisan affiliation and strength of partisanship.  Bush and Kerry split the female vote almost 50-50 in 2004, which is unsurprising since that's pretty much how the parties split in the electorate.  It would be surprising, though I suppose not impossible, if gender were to suddenly become an important factor in this election.

-- Todd/Leviathn 

As i recall "BUSH" was supposed to be an outsider as well.

 You will not see many clinton supporters voteing republican,  not many want another 4 years like the last 8.

As far as Palin goes, grasping for straws comes to mind. Did I hear she is under investigation in alaska, something about ordering her x-brother inlaw fired from his state trooper job. didn't catch the whole story, might be nothing, I'm sure we'll hear about it weather it's true or not.

If Obama looses this election it will be for same reason as Kerry, young people talk a good story, but won't be botherd to go vote.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Toad]

Might as well educate yourselves about the Trooper Thing. Lots of speculation and misinformation out there.

Long-Standing Feud in Alaska Embroils Palin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002366.html

...The trouble between Wooten and the governor's sister broke into the open after an alleged incident in February 2005. Palin told an internal affairs investigator that she overheard on a speakerphone Wooten arguing with her sister and threatening to kill their father. Fearful for her family members' lives, Palin said she drove to her sister's house and watched the argument through a window.

"Wooten's words were, 'I will kill him. He'll eat a [expletive] lead bullet, I'll shoot him,' if our father got the attorney to help Molly," Palin said in an e-mail she wrote in August 2005 to the chief of the state police. "I heard this death threat, my 16-year-old son heard it (Track Palin), Molly heard it, as did their small children. Wooten spoke with his Trooper gun on his hip in an extremely intimidating fashion, leaving no doubt he is serious about taking someone's life who disagrees with him."...


...On March 1, 2006, Grimes sustained the allegations, saying, "The record clearly indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of unacceptable and at times, illegal activity occurring over a lengthy period, which establishes a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession." Wooten was suspended for five days....

 

IF that is true, the Trooper SHOULD have been fired immediately.


Now, if you at least read that whole article, you have something to discuss.

[rpm]

'Foreign policy experience' It has been pointed out several times that she has none. On the other hand, Palin as an outsider is viewed as a positive. Question: HOW can one have 'foreign policy experience', without being a Washington insider?

You could have it thru the military, or buisness. You don't nessessarily have to be an insider to have experience.

[Druss]

I'm pretty sure no one cares.

LOL! 

[Toad]

The obvious skeleton in the closet is that as McC's veep she has as much foreign policy experience as The Obamessiah and he's the top of that ticket.

Well, he might have a tiny edge because he just got back from the National Lampoon's Political European Vacation.

[Urthona]

Actually, when you think of the shredding machine that the Clintons are capable of becoming, that is an accomplishment.  I assume that there was some outstanding counter-dirty-work required to be in play there which Obama was sly enough to not reveal to the public.  Would be an interesting story to hear about.

Well certainly the Clintons have no Monopoly on under-handed tactics, and I'm sure some die hard Hillary supporters could point to a few thrown at her from Obama.  Of course the master is Rove.  I'm still amazed at how he torpedoed McCain during the primary in 2000: illegitimate child, Post-traumatic stress disorder, etc..  and we all know where that led us.  Still, for the most part, I think both the McCain and Obama campaigns have been relatively above board this cycle.

[yanksfan]

Might as well educate yourselves about the Trooper Thing. Lots of speculation and misinformation out there.

Long-Standing Feud in Alaska Embroils Palin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002366.html




IF that is true, the Trooper SHOULD have been fired immediately.


Now, if you at least read that whole article, you have something to discuss.

Good article, make sure you read all 3 pages, sounds like abuse of power to settle old scores to me. should be interesting in oct when the final report comes out.

[Holden McGroin]

Hmmm...

Oh yeah it's by marriage...



I suppose there might be a resemblance.

[Toad]

Good article, make sure you read all 3 pages, sounds like abuse of power to settle old scores to me. should be interesting in oct when the final report comes out.

If true, sounds like a trooper that should have been fired immediately to me. Death threats while in uniform while wearing the service sidearm? Yah, right. His boss should have canned him tout de suite.