Have Gun, Will Travel. Sarah Palin a Good VP pick?

[Holden McGroin]

Adam and Eve also had children, the most famous of which are Cain and Able. Doesn't sound like celluar division to me.

So I'll put you down in the Jerry Fawell/Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker/Oral Roberts literal camp then?

As for her being a good pick, I hadn't heard of her before this morning.  Tough to tell.

[FrodeMk3]

The believer would then counter, "I would think that God has extremely advanced biological knowledge and since the bible is the word of God, this implication is understandable."   

A scientist approach to that argument might be, "Why then, could he have not imparted that knowledge to us, to help us grow food, to help us heal our sick? Why not, if he loves us so? Especially, if he made us capable of learning these feats ourselves, anyway?"

[Elfie]

So I'll put you down in the Jerry Fawell/Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker/Oral Roberts literal camp then?

I would not associate myself or my beliefs with any of those except perhaps Jerry Falwell. Mr. Falwell taught the principles of the Bible and lived his life accordingly without making a mockery of them. I cannot say the same for the others you mentioned.

I won't respond to further posts like this in this thread.

[MORAY37]

I woulda pointed out that in the race for the Democratic primary, gender lost out to race.

Besides, McCain choosing a woman to run as VP tends' to show a more-liberal-than-might-be-tolerated McCain; If a woman was such a hot ticket in the Election, Hillary Clinton would have won the DNC nomination, not Obama. And she won't change who/what McCain is, and that is what is possibly the most disliked GOP candidate of the entire 2008 election. The GOP could have put people up there that were better suited than anything they offered this time, IMO.

Agreed.  He may actually be doing more damage than helping his chances, overall.  

[Saxman]

You do realize that with a few adjustments in order Genesis more or less follows the scientifically accepted progression of the creation of the earth and appearance of humanity, right?

Bible:

Let there be Light
Creation of the Heavens
Creation of Earth
Creation of the Seas
Creation of plant life
Creation of the Sun and Moon
Creation of sea life and birds
Creation of terrestrial life
Creation of Man

Science

Big Bang (what do you think a tremendous explosion generates? LIGHT! And lots of it!)
Creation of the Universe (heavens)
Formation of stars (including our sun)
Formation of the Earth and other planets/terrestrial bodies
Formation of the Moon
Appearance of water on earth (MAY have occurred before the formation of the Moon)
Development and evolution of life (sea, land and air)
Appearance of man

As for the naming of things, yeah, man pretty much took care of that, because it's not like God left a field guide lying around for us to find.

The thought that science and religion are incapable of co-existence in one coherent concept is flawed. Science has more than proven much of the how. But what it CAN'T fully answer or explain is the WHY the system developed in such a manner that it works the way it does.

[DREDIOCK]

A scientist approach to that argument might be, "Why then, could he have not imparted that knowledge to us, to help us grow food, to help us heal our sick? Why not, if he loves us so? Especially, if he made us capable of learning these feats ourselves, anyway?"

He has. We just havent evolved to that point yet 

[FrodeMk3]

Agreed.  He may actually be doing more damage than helping his chances, overall.  

I don't know how many democrat votes' he can win over (Here, i'm talking about the disenfranchised Clinton supporters) due to having a woman VP. Many people (sadly) still vote along party lines, and to them, a republican is a republican. Even with Obama's choice of Biden (did he offer it to Clinton, and if he did, did she turn him down?) for a running mate, Obama's not going to lose any voters from the Democrat side of the isle, IMO. He might pick some up, with a(n) older white male seeming to anchor his presidency, to many, keeping it from being too liberal.

Don't get me wrong, this won't win very many republican supporters' away from McCain, even with a woman VP. I think that this election, you might see a strong showing for independents.

[MORAY37]

I don't know how many democrat votes' he can win over (Here, i'm talking about the disenfranchised Clinton supporters) due to having a woman VP. Many people (sadly) still vote along party lines, and to them, a republican is a republican. Even with Obama's choice of Biden (did he offer it to Clinton, and if he did, did she turn him down?) for a running mate, Obama's not going to lose any voters from the Democrat side of the isle, IMO. He might pick some up, with a(n) older white male seeming to anchor his presidency, to many, keeping it from being too liberal.

Don't get me wrong, this won't win very many republican supporters' away from McCain, even with a woman VP. I think that this election, you might see a strong showing for independents.

Independents will decide this election, for sure.

I truly don't think Obama offered the position to Clinton.  Earlier in the campaign, I think it was a sure thing.  The Clintons, in going for the throat, made that an impossibility.  Bill, more than Hillary, IMO, made her blacklisted on the ticket to Obama. 

I will say this, Biden and Palin debating will not be a thing which will help McCain's cause.  He's seriously in the grips of dementia if he thinks she will carry such a debate.  Her learning curve on foreing policy and economics is incredibly steep. 

In the end, the VP choice only really affects McCain.  (he's 72 today...)  I don't think he's gaining any support with his choice, only making those who were voting for him anyway, feel just a little more "comfortable".

[Nwbie]

Genesis chapter 1, the story of Creation. Hardly sounds like Adam was the first primordial ooze:

More specific on the creation of Man from chapter 2:

And the creation of woman from chapter 2 as well:

Adam and Eve also had children, the most famous of which are Cain and Able. Doesn't sound like celluar division to me.

Elfie

who actually wrote the bible?
I know -it was the hand of god --centuries later guiding the hands--in the old testament.....ok
now
we get to the king james version....at which time ...king james was god...if the monks wanted to eat....and uuuhhh ...stick around for awhile...

You ever play post office as a kid?
story starts on one end...travels around...and suddenly...the same exact story that the first person whispered in the ear of the second...is reiterated....
or.... perhaps some things were changed through misunderstanding, or personal preference or lack of linguistic interpretation....
perhaps...maybe....some things were embellished to scare the crap out of people so that they would behave in a society....or old beliefs ...old...very old ...tribal stories and beliefs were changed as centuries went on ..to become...
The Word of the Lord

genesis story...
A nice story to help provide faith in the just abilities of mankind...there is a promise of fullfillment if you follow some basic rules

[Hangtime]

Aww, c'mon. This ain't rocket science.. it's a no brainer. She's hot, shoots, favorite dish is moose pie and corrupt politicians. McCain only had to meet her once (yesterday) and that's all it took to seal the deal.

<slim pickens voice>

"darlin, I'm gonna make you vice president. Then your gonna keep them pesky crooked politicians and lobbyists busy tryin to keep their bent dicks attached while I take care of a little unfinished business with the rooski's and their new buddies in stan-land."

 
</slim pickens voice>

[Hangtime]

Independents will decide this election, for sure.

I truly don't think Obama offered the position to Clinton.  Earlier in the campaign, I think it was a sure thing.  The Clintons, in going for the throat, made that an impossibility.  Bill, more than Hillary, IMO, made her blacklisted on the ticket to Obama. 

I will say this, Biden and Palin debating will not be a thing which will help McCain's cause.  He's seriously in the grips of dementia if he thinks she will carry such a debate.  Her learning curve on foreing policy and economics is incredibly steep. 

In the end, the VP choice only really affects McCain.  (he's 72 today...)  I don't think he's gaining any support with his choice, only making those who were voting for him anyway, feel just a little more "comfortable".

Depends on the debate format.. and what questions are tendered. The media seems to reacting very negatively to her.. whotta surprise.

[MORAY37]

Aww, c'mon. This ain't rocket science.. it's a no brainer. She's hot, shoots, favorite dish is moose pie and corrupt politicians. McCain only had to meet her once (yesterday) and that's all it took to seal the deal.

<slim pickens voice>

"darlin, I'm gonna make you vice president. Then your gonna keep them pesky crooked politicians and lobbyists busy tryin to keep their bent dicks attached while I take care of a little unfinished business with the rooski's and their new buddies in stan-land."

 
</slim pickens voice>

lol what is it with McCain and his little beauty queens, anyway?

I stand by my first statement.... other than being a surprise, she does nothing to the GOP ticket that he couldn't get elsewhere.

[Elfie]

corrupt politicians.

If she can help clean up Washington I'm all for it. The fact that she is easy on the eyes and shoots automatic weapons is not unattractive.

[Holden McGroin]

I will say this, Biden and Palin debating will not be a thing which will help McCain's cause.  He's seriously in the grips of dementia if he thinks she will carry such a debate.  Her learning curve on foreing policy and economics is incredibly steep. 

I don't know about Palin, but Biden is prone to saying stupid things.  If he says a stupid thing during a debate, in this day of out of context quotes on you tube, and she just appears intellegent, she could walk away with a debate win.

[MORAY37]

Depends on the debate format.. and what questions are tendered. The media seems to reacting very negatively to her.. whotta surprise.

I haven't seen anything overtly negative about her.  Just surprise.  

You're right....if the debate has questions on PTA conferences, sinking a jumpshot in high school basketball,  or "How does it feel coming in second in a beauty pageant?" ...then she's got it locked up.