Debate

[mg1942]

so who won???

[ian5440]

Obamabinladen

there is no need to say that 

just say obama

[Mr No Name]

Well, from someone who doesn't like either of them...  Osamabama was allowed to interject many times during McCains time.  McCain did start returning the favor but seeing them on the news, in press conferences, obama lied and omitted many facts about his own statements during the debates tonight.

[ian5440]

so who won???

Obama, he was tough and expressed his thoughts clearly 

McCain picked up speed during Foreign Policy though, he was crushed during the Economy segment

[crockett]

Ok as I'm sure some will point out I'm biased to Obama, but I do think Obama clearly controlled this debate. If you notice Obama always said what "he" would do on just about every question and then might have referred to something McCain had done. On the other hand McCain also mostly talked about what "Obama" would do rather than telling us what "he" would do.

McCain clearly did not take the ball into his side of the court and tell us what "he" is going to do if he become president. McCain just kept going back to the tired oh I've been here 100 years and I know better. Well maybe so, but he sure as hell didn't tell us what he would "do" better other than talk about spending. Even there he has never told us how he will cut all the spending.

McCain had some good points here and there and I think Obama fumbled once or twice, but over all I'd have to give this one to Obama.  

[Stalwart]

Obama may have won in style and delivery, but McCain won in substance. IMO.


But....  I don't see how a principled person can be undecided, or swayed at this point.
The people that are undecided at this point must be motivated emotionally.

[GtoRA2]

I would say minor victory McCain, obamabinbiden got owned on the last half.

His ending statement was weak.

By taking it back to Iraq, he kept letting McCain beat him over the head with the surge.


Plus "His I agree with McCain on Russia" was pretty weak, he should have at least stole it and spun it his way.

[trax1]

Looks like Obama was right about the Kissinger comment, Katie Curric said after her interview with Palin she called Kissinger and ask him what his stand was, he said that he does support meetings with unsavory leaders without pre-conditions.

[Flit]

Sounded to me like Obama want to increase the money the gov receives, while Macain wants to reduce it.
 I like less money going to the gov-If they have it, they will spend it.

[Hangtime]

I think Obama started pretty good.. he was better at explaining his economy proposals than the old Buzzard. When the debate moved forward a bit, teetering between economy and world affairs and foreign policy... McCain did much better. I liked the confidence, I liked his views, I liked his support of the military and his positions on our policy initiatives. As I thought, they guy knows how to win a war without being a freakin 'dead or alive' cowboy. He finished strong..

I rate it as McCain Wins, 7 to 3.

The next debate here on Long Island on the Economy will be just as interesting... and if the old buzzard doesn't get himself together on that, Obama may take that one.

[majic]

Looks like Obama was right about the Kissinger comment, Katie Curric said after her interview with Palin she called Kissinger and ask him what his stand was, he said that he does support meetings with unsavory leaders without pre-conditions.

I watched that, and disagree.  Kissinger was talking about low level meetings, the discussion in the debate was about heads of state.

[ian5440]

I would say minor victory McCain, obamabinbiden got owned on the last half.

His ending statement was weak.

By taking it back to Iraq, he kept letting McCain beat him over the head with the surge.


Plus "His I agree with McCain on Russia" was pretty weak, he should have at least stole it and spun it his way.

i dint think Obama did bad during the Foreign Policy segment. I felt he showed he was well informed and was not naive, no matter how much  McCain tried to emphasize that

[crockett]

Sounded to me like Obama want to increase the money the gov receives, while Macain wants to reduce it.
 I like less money going to the gov-If they have it, they will spend it.

Not really.. it's just a difference of who pays it. McCain is for cutting taxes to big oil by crazy amounts.. (you know those guys that are currently raking in record profits)  Obama on the other hand is for cutting taxes for the average person.

[trax1]

Well McCain should have won this debate, I'm a Obama supporter and I'll admit McCain is more experienced when it comes to foreign affairs, I would have been surprised if he didn't look stronger in that department.

[crockett]

I watched that, and disagree.  Kissinger was talking about low level meetings, the discussion in the debate was about heads of state.

You obviously don't get to high level meetings with out having low level meetings first. Obama isn't saying he's gonna run right over to Iran and start blabbing away to the Supreme Leader. He said he would support talks with out pre conditions. I'll admit that Obama could have been more clear on that subject. That's one of the places I thought he fluttered and should have stuck it right back to McCain.