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Offline Chalenge

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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2008, 08:08:15 PM »
LOL RPM - btw I dont think Pelosi spoiled this with her diatribe... It was a turkey and a bad idea to begin with and elections are 5 weeks away with, of course, every seat up for grabs.

Maybe not but she (in the video I linked to) lied and called a deficit a surplus and accused the republicans of every thing she and her cohorts are guilty (or just as guilty) of. Always keep up the offense by attacking the opposition and never admit guilt and never accept blame.
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 08:08:39 PM »
As more and more facts about the failed vote come out, it becomes plain that there was more going on than just Pelosi's ill-timed, ill-directed, screw bi-partisan cooperation, blame Bush speech.

The good of the nation took second-place to election year posturing and opportunism.  

The democrats did not need Republican votes to pass this bill.  All they had to do was whip all of their horses in line and the it would be a done deal.  One reports alleges that democratic House members up for reelection in strongly contested races were urged to vote against the bill, because enough Republicans were committing to vote for it that it was safe to do so.  Republicans got wind of the double-dealing.  That, and Pelosi's speech had them livid with outrage.

Cynics might also state that the democratic presidential candidate morphed into the Invisible Man during the debate over the bipartisan bill at a time when his influence was sorely needed.




 



 

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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008, 08:09:50 PM »
Maybe not but she (in the video I linked to) lied and called a deficit a surplus and accused the republicans of every thing she and her cohorts are guilty (or just as guilty) of. Always keep up the offense by attacking the opposition and never admit guilt and never accept blame.

Ohhh I know... Like I said earlier, all of that speech was for election commercial sound bytes.
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2008, 08:10:47 PM »
Just heard a great line by Mike Huckabee in relation to the bailout:  "Those who just burned the Thanksgiving Turkey are asking that they be allowed to cook Christmas dinner."

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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2008, 08:11:50 PM »
Say the entire statement. I am so sick of this propaganda media truncating positions to distort the truth
THIS is what McCain said:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/15/mccain_fundamentals_of_economy.html

But why don't you just LIE about it.

hehe..

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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2008, 08:14:16 PM »
osamabama isnt going to be anywhere that a concrete stand can stick to him... I have never seen anyone escape media scrutiny over half-truths, misstatements and just plain outright lies than he has gotten away with... It's like they are afraid he is gonna play that race card he keeps at the ready.
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2008, 08:16:10 PM »
The house republicans didn't go for the bailout because their feelings were hurt? More BS posturing and spin coming off this than a F5 tornado in Wichita.

The reason the house republicans refused is not Nancy of Big Tittistan's partisan posturing. They didn't sign because they didn't want to be nailed in november for passing a bailout that does not address the main street concerns and most view it as a privatization deal favoring wall street. They want heads to roll.. republican heads in the current administration because they want deniable distance from the current administration. They've been listening to US.. and WE're telling them NO.

Now we gotta tell 'em we need a better plan. .. one focused on Main st.. Not Wall st.  

Thats ok I hear something like 40% of the Democrats didnt go for it either.
Thats a significant number

Can anyone confirm of refute this?
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2008, 08:16:44 PM »
Lets not forget that barney franks gay partner, herb moses, was a Fannie Mae executive... Gee wasnt it ol barney that told us that Fannie didnt need oversight??? Doesnt this look like a conflict of interest?  A congressional chairman of the house financial services committee LITERALLY in bed with an executive of a company which he is supposed to provide oversight???

Your chitin me.....this is true?
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2008, 08:23:13 PM »
RedTop you and I are Ex-Squaddies... you know I wouldnt pull your leg about something this serious...
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2008, 08:24:23 PM »
Thats ok I hear something like 40% of the Democrats didnt go for it either.
Thats a significant number

Can anyone confirm of refute this?

Yea Barney Frank is saying its the Republicans fault for not getting those 12 extra votes, yet of the 95 Democrats who voted against it, 12 are on Barney's committee :) Seems Barny couldn't get 12 of his Democratic committee members to go along with him! But the media won't tell you that.

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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2008, 08:25:34 PM »
Your chitin me.....this is true?

Yep, it's true.  And just think about who Obama's financial advisers are.
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2008, 08:26:31 PM »
RedTop you and I are Ex-Squaddies... you know I wouldnt pull your leg about something this serious...

I wanna puke....
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2008, 08:30:38 PM »
hehe..

You don't read many of my posts, do you?

One of those 'gaff, net or just shoot the damn thing' moments.

Good catch, sluggo.  :aok
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2008, 08:31:47 PM »
One source says Republicans put up historic fight to block the deal. This one says Democrats blocked the deal. You guys gotta get on the same page or you just look like a bunch of fools riding the spin bandwagon. Now get your story's straight!

In this age of information its inexcusable that you can't find a reliable source. That's what makes spin so ridiculous. The facts are out there. You just can't be lazy and have others look for them for you. Do you know which Democrats voted against this bill? Do you know their committee assignments? Don't call anyone a "fool" until you do.

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2008, 08:35:27 PM »
Republicans voted 66% against the bill... Democrats voted 40% against the bill.  Whatever their reason, I am grateful for the result.
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