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Offline Hangtime

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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #75 on: September 30, 2008, 10:45:10 AM »
if workers want to be paid - business need the cash - aren't too many of us that want to wait for invoices to be paid - especially when average invoice payments are - lets say 45 days -
Companies borrow to keep the flow going, our economy has run that way for many many years.


Probably why I don't have a problem... I rejected this concept when I started my business. I don't have an accounts payable.. I pay up front all orders for materials and I refuse to ship before being paid. I get requests to ship on 'Purchase Order', my response is always the same.. 'If you want a loan, go to a bank'. I've missed some business by being a cranky old dick, but the business I do get, is good profit and materials used are covered before the finished product ships. Has left me 'liquid' instead of 'leveraged' and I own everything I can see...

I sleep better at night too.

I can't imagine what kinda deep doggie doo I'd be in if I had product out and was awaiting payment from companies falling into receivership in this crisis...
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #76 on: September 30, 2008, 10:48:28 AM »
But you make it so easy... :aok

Funny how yesterday you guys were all yipping and yaying about your Republican's voting down this bill. When I mention yesterday asking I wonder how long it will take for you guys to start blaming the Democrats once it starts going bad. All you guys jumped on me asking why couldn't I just be bipartisan.

lol well I guess it didn't take so long for you guys to start blaming Democrats for it not passing now did it.  Not even 24 hours later  and you guys go from praising your Republican hero's to blaming Democrats.  :rofl :rofl :rofl

If Obama gets elected I'm going to make "Blame Obama" T-shirts and bumper stickers.. I bet I'll be a millionaire just from the O'club..  :lol
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #77 on: September 30, 2008, 10:49:16 AM »
I can't imagine what kinda deep doggie doo I'd be in if I had product out and was awaiting payment from companies falling into receivership in this crisis...
You would be begging for a taxpayer bailout like all the others.

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« Reply #78 on: September 30, 2008, 10:50:31 AM »
How is this a Dem's blame game? This was a bill your "Republican" president wanted. Humm last time I check George Bush was pretty far from being a Democrat.. The Democrats did what needed to be done to help this country. The Republican side of the congress didn't. It's really simple as that.

How far back does it have to go since it never ending,

The Dems had the vote, but chose not too, Pelosi speach, the budget, the market, the war, its endless, where does it stop?  The blame game continues,,,,, everything is someone elses fault but their own unless they can find some benefit to claim it as their own, even then it usually has something to do with republicans.  Its as simple as that.


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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #79 on: September 30, 2008, 10:50:45 AM »
I bet I'll be a millionaire just from the O'club..  :lol
Go find a window and look outside, at the real world.  Remember it is there for you, so dont forget to use it, from time to time.

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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2008, 10:51:23 AM »
Funny how yesterday you guys were all yipping and yaying about your Republican's voting down this bill. When I mention yesterday asking I wonder how long it will take for you guys to start blaming the Democrats once it starts going bad. All you guys jumped on me asking why couldn't I just be bipartisan.

lol well I guess it didn't take so long for you guys to start blaming Democrats for it not passing now did it.  Not even 24 hours later  and you guys go from praising your Republican hero's to blaming Democrats.  :rofl :rofl :rofl

If Obama gets elected I'm going to make "Blame Obama" T-shirts and bumper stickers.. I bet I'll be a millionaire just from the O'club..  :lol

Please don't misunderstand me.  I'm GLAD it didn't pass, and I don't care WHO voted against it.  The market will correct itself.

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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2008, 10:51:59 AM »
How is this a Dem's blame game? This was a bill your "Republican" president wanted. Humm last time I check George Bush was pretty far from being a Democrat.. The Democrats did what needed to be done to help this country. The Republican side of the congress didn't. It's really simple as that.

Bush is closer to being a Democrat than he is a Republican. He's just more hawkish than most Democrats, as well is his opposition to a select few social programs, stem cell (harvested from fetus) research, and abortion. He's not really all that hawkish for a Republican, and he's nowhere near fiscally conservative enough, otherwise the bailout bill wouldn't have looked like it did.
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« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2008, 10:53:25 AM »
I disagree if you mean this as some kind of universal rule of how a congressman should vote.

I suppose you prefer to let your elected representative think for you. That's your choice. But it is not mine, nor is it how the Founding Fathers intended it to work.
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2008, 10:57:34 AM »
You would be begging for a taxpayer bailout like all the others.

"Do it for the children"!

The children.. is why I refused to leverage. I don't even take out car loans. I hate debt. I find it an insult.. part of being raised by folks that thought the same way. I got deep in a hole on my kids medical bills.. I found it intolerable. When my daughter got married my wife wanted to do the big wedding... I told her to do it we'd have to sell the house to clear the bills and cover the 20 grand the wedding would cost... but I would not go deeper in the hole for a party.

We sold the house.

Thank god!
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2008, 11:05:14 AM »
Please don't misunderstand me.  I'm GLAD it didn't pass, and I don't care WHO voted against it.  The market will correct itself.


I completely agree with your statement, however the first thing that happened when it failed was the Dem throwing blame that it didnt onto Rep.  What a bunch of mooroons.

I for one dont want it to pass for many reasons, but the Dems had that oppurtunity to get what they wanted and they voted against it themselves, for once they sided with common sense.


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« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2008, 11:06:55 AM »
I suppose you prefer to let your elected representative think for you. That's your choice. But it is not mine, nor is it how the Founding Fathers intended it to work.

No, I just hope they'll also protect me if I'm in the minority, and exercise some independent judgment when the majority is wrong.  If the majority hates their decision that much they can vote them out of office.
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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2008, 11:07:26 AM »

I completely agree with your statement, however the first thing that happened when it failed was the Dem throwing blame that it didnt onto Rep.  What a bunch of mooroons.

I for one dont want it to pass for many reasons, but the Dems had that oppurtunity to get what they wanted and they voted against it themselves, for once they sided with common sense.

The question I want answered, and the question that all the lefties here are dodging, is why didn't Barney and co think that regulation was a good idea when the evil BOOOSH proposed it five years ago?

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« Reply #87 on: September 30, 2008, 11:13:37 AM »
The question I want answered, and the question that all the lefties here are dodging, is why didn't Barney and co think that regulation was a good idea when the evil BOOOSH proposed it five years ago?


I got an answer, It wansnt the idea of the Dems...... :lol :lol


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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2008, 11:44:29 AM »

I completely agree with your statement, however the first thing that happened when it failed was the Dem throwing blame that it didnt onto Rep.  What a bunch of mooroons.



Hrmmmmm.... Ironic post considering the title of this thread "Pelosi Spoils the deal!"  Sounds to me like the dems are getting blamed. hehehee  :lol

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Re: Pelosi Spoils the Deal!
« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2008, 12:15:47 PM »
This wasn't even a Democrat's bill.. It was a Republican bill that your Republican president wanted. The Dem's did what needed to be done your Republican so called hero's were too busy plying politics to care about this country or the people this will affect.

are you saying that the democrats don't want to "save the country"? Is that why 93 democrats voted against the bill they had agreed to?