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Offline RedTop

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2008, 07:56:15 PM »
It sounds good and all... but then when the legislators talk numbers, they say things like 15-20%. Seems a bit high to me, especially while living in a state where some cities and counties charge over 8% already.

I agree with you again.......as the travelocity knome says..."Am I gong to die?" :uhoh :lol
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2008, 07:59:25 PM »
yes.

that; you can take to the bank.
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2008, 08:01:32 PM »
yes.

that; you can take to the bank.

Nope...Im not....just aint gonna do it...nope nope nope...
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2008, 08:03:34 PM »
Do away with the payroll tax.  Make everyone pay their taxes out of pocket quarterly.  We have become a "net pay" society.  To the point where most just give a passing glance at the FICA, state and SS deductions.  Of course, the reason those automatic deductions are there is to prevent the all-out revolt and refusal to pay that would happen if the masses had to pay their taxes out of pocket.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2008, 08:05:28 PM »
Nope...Im not....just aint gonna do it...nope nope nope...

lol. actuaries from the second most despicable corporate entities on the planet will dispute that in detail.

via the life insurance premium rates vs age table.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2008, 08:20:13 PM »
+1

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2008, 10:36:04 PM »
Get the maverick in there and I think you will see this sort if thing, dontcha know (wink).
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2008, 10:45:18 PM »
Go one step further.  Make final yearly taxes due October 31.  There is a reason tax day is 6 months before/after election day. 

Nice idea  :aok
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2008, 11:20:39 PM »
The People is the US have it easy for Taxes....
Here is mine From last month

Gross Pay : €8611,76
Net Pay: €4552,15

€ 650 of the witholding is for Retirement and health Insurance:

The rest is TAX!!!!


Yeah, but in the Netherlands don't they have like for every 1 person working 2 receive complete benefits.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2008, 04:43:20 AM »
Its a users tax. This would eliminate people getting paid cash and not reporting income. The rich would pay more cause they buy more. The middle class would pay middle taxes becuase... They are middle income. The less fortunate would pay the least taxes... By the way whats the avg pay of a congressman or senator??? You think they would actually go for this. Just imagine ... the irs would have less employees or re direct them to audit businesses. OOOPs, I bet most comgressmen and senetors (republicans) get most donations from businesses and are involved with some.. Again... Why would they vote for this... Its an endless cycle.


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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2008, 06:05:39 AM »
Yeah, but in the Netherlands don't they have like for every 1 person working 2 receive complete benefits.
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2008, 07:59:53 AM »
No income tax you say?

http://www.fairtax.org

Write your reps to support it! 
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2008, 08:23:33 AM »
This is NOT a new idea!  Been said many times before but try and get the politicians to agree to it.

And of course you have the conservative republicans that are actually facist and they want you and everyone else to give all your money to the state so THEY can dole it out and have everyone worship the state (and them) that will NEVER vote for such a thing!

fixed.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2008, 07:26:36 PM »
unbelievable.  that is what obama would have us become

only if they legalize soma er pot so we are all so stoned we just don't care ...

think we are headed for a combination brave new world and idiocracy society, if the socialist wins in nov, we'll be there in less than 4 years...
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2008, 08:12:31 PM »
I would have thought this would qualify as a political thread.
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