109K-4 with MG 151/20

[morfiend]

 I found another source that stated the K4 was capable of holding the 151/20 gondies,but was seldom used as at the time high speed was needed to avoid the allied escorts.

 So maybe an argument could be made for the addition of gondolas to the K4.

[Anaxogoras]

Yes, my same source states that III./JG26 was very peeved when nearly all of their 109K-4s were delivered with underwing MG 151/20 gun pods.

[Anaxogoras]

The G-6 we have modeled is the early G-6 and it fills a role in a timeline. Giving it the 30mm negates this role and leaves all scenarios and events set in 1943 without a major plane that historically was there.

I like the fact they are giving specific aircraft, and not mis-matching like they used to do.

Easy fix.  Add another 109G-6 as a new aircraft and give it a 30mm MK 108.  That way scenario designers can restrict it to early 1943 without hassle.

[Krusty]

That is a thought. Or whenever this ord-perking feature ever gets implemented they can do it that way (slip in a way to disable a gun instead of perking it, maybe?)

Then again, I don't see adding a nearly identical plane with a single gun's (and maybe a different canopy) as the only differences. Doesn't seem to be HTC's style.

[Motherland]

CM's have made limited ordinance options before- can't take rockets on the TBM in early scenarios, P39D's only allowed to use 20mm cannon, etc. No big problem there.

[vonKrimm]

It's one of the most well respected books on the 109 in existence, from two reputable historians.  Don't beg the question.

Please post the title, authors, & ISBN of the book to which you refer please.

[Motherland]

Please post the title, authors, & ISBN of the book to which you refer please.

First post says Messerschmitt Bf 109F, G and K series by Prien and Rodeike.
http://www.amazon.com/Messerschmitt-Bf-109-Illustrated-Study/dp/0887404243/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223604373&sr=8-1

[Karnak]

CM's have made limited ordinance options before- can't take rockets on the TBM in early scenarios, P39D's only allowed to use 20mm cannon, etc. No big problem there.

I don't think that capability is there for things like the AvA though.

[BoSoxFan]

I don't think that capability is there for things like the AvA though.

I don't think that really matters since Iv seen them sub the M4 with the firefly in a North Africa setup.

[Adonai]

I read quite a few books on the 109k, and yes a handful were given a MG-151 in the nose

    * R I ETC 501/IX b or Schloß 503belly bomb rack, fusing equipment for fitting a 250 or 500 kg bomb
    * R III Schloß 503A-1 rack for one fuselage drop tank (300 l/79 US gallons).
    * R IV two 2cm Mauser MG 151/20 underwing gunpods with 135 rpg.
    * R VI BSK 16 gun-camera in the left wing between nose ribs 3 and 4.

Here are the kits for the 109k - The bomb belly rack which im suprised is not in game, only has a drop tank,
the rack was designed for both bomb and DT.

R IV Should be an option for the 109k4, any buff hunter would enjoy having the extra firepower going
against buffs.

I go back to my origional arguement, re-add the Me109 g-10, and problem is solved.

[Anaxogoras]

Adonai, what books also say some 109K-4s were delivered with an MG 151/20 hub cannon?  Maybe we can make a list an present it to HTC.

[Babalonian]

First post says Messerschmitt Bf 109F, G and K series by Prien and Rodeike.
http://www.amazon.com/Messerschmitt-Bf-109-Illustrated-Study/dp/0887404243/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223604373&sr=8-1

Thank you.
Book titles and authors = sources.

[Krusty]

    * R IV two 2cm Mauser MG 151/20 underwing gunpods with 135 rpg.

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R IV Should be an option for the 109k4, any buff hunter would enjoy having the extra firepower going
against buffs.

No, because these "R" packs may never have been used. Many K-4s were "delivered" with the gondolas, as has been discussed before. But all of them were removed at the depot level before seeing combat. So basically, no K-4s saw combat with the gondolas.