zeeek question?

[CAP1]

hey guys,
just curious.......

i was cruising around the web the other day, and came across a page that had info on the zeeeks.
according to that page the a6m5b had an automatic co2 fire extinguisher for the fuel tanks. anyone ever hear of this? wonder if we can get it ingame?

http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/zerofacts.htm

engine: 1x Nakajima Sakae 21 engine w/two-stage supercharger [1,130hp at take-off, 1,100hp at 9,350ft, 980hp at 19,685ft] w/ 3-bladed constant speed Sumitomo propeller
speed:
climb rate:
ceiling:
fuel: 540liter internal + 330liter ventral drop tank
range:
weight:
armament: 1x 7.7mm Type 97 machine gun, 1x 13.2mm Type 3 machine gun
2x 20mm Type 99 Model 2 Mark 4 cannon w/125rpg,2x 132lb bombs
number built: 470 by Mitsubishi (beginning April 1944?)
notes: fitted with automatic fuel tank CO2 fire extinguishers armored windshield
GLORY: A6M5b 7F7 1/C/14

[PFactorDave]

That's kind of neat.

Be careful of how much "realism" you ask for though.  The zeek, if I remember correctly, also had the trigger for the guns on the throttle instead of the stick.  Who really wants that?   

[SmokinLoon]

What I want to know is why there is a single 7.7mm MG and a single 13.2mm MG in the A6M5b and not two MG of the same caliber?  Talk about a logistics nightmare.  Why not like the A6M2?

[CAP1]

That's kind of neat.

Be careful of how much "realism" you ask for though.  The zeek, if I remember correctly, also had the trigger for the guns on the throttle instead of the stick.  Who really wants that?   

yaknow,....funny you should mention that........

i had seen that on one of the aircombat showdown shows......while they were being informative.

i do notice that when i squeeze the trigger ingame, i do sometimes move the stick.
 if i knew how to make a second setup, without losing the setup i have now, i would actually consider trying to put my trigger to one of the buttons on my throttle.

 seriously though, i onl brought the fire extinguisher up because if someone goes past me shooting, it seems that the muzzle flash from his guns sets my tanks off.

[vonKrimm]

according to that page the a6m5b had an automatic co2 fire extinguisher for the fuel tanks. anyone ever hear of this? wonder if we can get it ingame?

We already have it, which is why a Zeke will burn longer than any other fighter (IMHO) once you light it. 

[CAP1]

What I want to know is why there is a single 7.7mm MG and a single 13.2mm MG in the A6M5b and not two MG of the same caliber?  Talk about a logistics nightmare.  Why not like the A6M2?

i could only guess it was a room or weight issue? doesn't make sense to me either really.....

[Karnak]

What I want to know is why there is a single 7.7mm MG and a single 13.2mm MG in the A6M5b and not two MG of the same caliber?  Talk about a logistics nightmare.  Why not like the A6M2?

A6M5a had two 7.7mm guns in the cowl.  The 13.2mm was an attempt to boost firepower.  A6M5c had two 13.2mm guns in the wings, but I don't recall if they omitted the cowl guns or just omitted the 7.7mm or boosted the 7.7mm to a 13.2mm.

[CAP1]

We already have it, which is why a Zeke will burn longer than any other fighter (IMHO) once you light it. 

they burn long when someone else is flying them. i've been within a mile or two of base, when ignited, exited the fight immediatly, and not made it back.....

[Gianlupo]

A6M5a had two 7.7mm guns in the cowl.  The 13.2mm was an attempt to boost firepower.  A6M5c had two 13.2mm guns in the wings, but I don't recall if they omitted the cowl guns or just omitted the 7.7mm or boosted the 7.7mm to a 13.2mm.

IIRC, they only added the 2 13.2 in the wings, leaving the MGs in the cowling as they were, 1 7.7, 1 13.2

EDIT: Strike that, I just checked, A6M5, model 52c, had 3 13.2mm and no 7.7.

[Pkun]

What I want to know is why there is a single 7.7mm MG and a single 13.2mm MG in the A6M5b and not two MG of the same caliber?  Talk about a logistics nightmare.  Why not like the A6M2?

excuse me, I don' have exactry information fo this question.

but, I can consider.
type 3 13.2mm machine gun had promlem of supply .

If you have chance, you can find picture of A6M5c don't have 2x13.2mm.
(A6M5c armament is 20mm x2 and 13.2mm x 2)
this was by type 3's promlem of supply,this machine gun was not product enough numbers for A6M by low Japanese industry.

of cource , Japanese Navy wished to attach new 2x13.2mm to A6M5.
but I consider, it was impossible A6M5 get 13.2mm x2 by this problem.

and Ki43-I had same problem.
all prodact type Ki43-I had type 89 machine gun x1(7.7m) and Ho-103x1(12.8mm) on its nose.
this was by suply problem of Ho-103, and Ki43-II had 2 Ho103 why this problem was solved.

[Charge]

Maybe they mean by CO2 extinguisher an arrangement where exhaust gases are lead into fuel tanks so that vapours do not explode if a fuel tank is hit? Does not prevent fires caused by leaking fuel tanks though.

-C+

[CAP1]

Maybe they mean by CO2 extinguisher an arrangement where exhaust gases are lead into fuel tanks so that vapours do not explode if a fuel tank is hit? Does not prevent fires caused by leaking fuel tanks though.

-C+

CO2 WOULd starve the fire thus extinguishing it. no exhaust gases.