Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Because u pay $40K for "S H E L B Y"?

[CAP1]

Because u pay $40K for "S H E L B Y"?

nah..it has performance upgrades too......but the point i was making is that 40k for a mustang, camaro, charger,,,,,any of these....is outragous. these were originally intended to be affordable performance cars.
 40k isn't really affordable to me, at least not for something i'm gonna beat the snot out of....and yes, if i bought any of those, i would indeed have it at the track every weekend.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

I think you have to wake up and smell the coffee Cap1 

Well, it's the same as it always was "at the time". The basic crapy model was cheap, the high perf one was high $$$.

1967 Mustang coupe  $2,461
1967 GT350              $3,994
1967 GT500              $4,195
1967 Super Snake was planed for $7,500, but only one ended up made out of 50 planed.

That kind of follow today's figures of $23K base v6, $28K GT, $33K Shelby GT, $40K GT500, $80K 715HP Super Snake.

I bet you can find similar price jumps between a 1971 V6 Challenger, and 71 Challenger R/T six pack, or a 1969 Camaro with a straight 6, a 1969 396 RS/SS, and Yenko Camaro.

[clerick]

Sorry Tongs, I can't quote on the phone. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Holden chasis, Ford America have been evaluating the XR6 Turbo for the US market in attempt to gain some market position back because their sedans are rubbish. I woudn't be surprised if GM were taking bits from Holden, they already poached the Monaro and ruined it with a gross body kit and grill. Haha

With the debut of the Ecoboost motors i doubt they will be grabbing any motors from down-undah, except maybe a chassis but, with the modeo platform in Europe, I doubt that will happen either.  Ford Europe has some great cars and I'm still stunned that they are just now making arrangements to bring them here.

GM has had four years to plan a Mustang beater so.. DUH!  When you're the johnny-come-lately it is easy to one up the competition.  We'll see if Ford is able to get the EB V6 into the stang quick enough and, with the new 5.0 coming down, it should be an interesting match up. However, we all know that despite great performance, the blue oval still won the pony car war and they won it big.  I doubt that things will change anytime soon especially with FoMoCo's quality currently superior to GM's but, that could change.

My only wish for the new Camero is better looks. It's so close to a good looking car its just in the details that they lose me. "Slabbish" is the word i would use. Less round and more crisp is what i want.

[DiabloTX]

GM's had much more than 4 years to plan, 2002 was the last F-body.  They only started in '05.

As for styling, yeah it could be better.  But I suspect it will get better as the platform ages.  But then again it could get worse.  I'm one of the few that prefers the look of the LT1 Camaros over the LS1 Camaros.

And it is Cam"a"ro, not Cam"e"ro.  You've had at least 41 years to prepare for that.

[Ripsnort]

V6 camaro?  Trying to appeal to the european woman's market?

Well it worked for Ford and its Mustang V6...my wife bought one. 

And let me just add, that a stock Ford Mustang suspension (this one is 2005, first year of the retro look) SUCKS big time. My freaking 27 ft. motorhome corners better than her Mustang, I watermelon you not.

[Ripsnort]

GM's had much more than 4 years to plan, 2002 was the last F-body.  They only started in '05.

As for styling, yeah it could be better.  But I suspect it will get better as the platform ages.  But then again it could get worse.  I'm one of the few that prefers the look of the LT1 Camaros over the LS1 Camaros.

And it is Cam"a"ro, not Cam"e"ro.  You've had at least 41 years to prepare for that.

I'll bet you that the Chevy Volt outsells the Camaro 2 to 1 by 2011.

[DiabloTX]

Well, that's certainly a scenario.  I doubt it'll come to fruition but you never know...

[CAP1]

I think you have to wake up and smell the coffee Cap1 

Well, it's the same as it always was "at the time". The basic crapy model was cheap, the high perf one was high $$$.

1967 Mustang coupe  $2,461
1967 GT350              $3,994
1967 GT500              $4,195
1967 Super Snake was planed for $7,500, but only one ended up made out of 50 planed.

That kind of follow today's figures of $23K base v6, $28K GT, $33K Shelby GT, $40K GT500, $80K 715HP Super Snake.

I bet you can find similar price jumps between a 1971 V6 Challenger, and 71 Challenger R/T six pack, or a 1969 Camaro with a straight 6, a 1969 396 RS/SS, and Yenko Camaro.

well...had i been old enough to consider the purchase of one, aback then, i'd probably be saying the same thing.

on that note, i did in 1983 buy a brand new mustang. 5.0L 5speed, TRX suspension(blech!) hatchback. it was all options. ford(according to the dealer) didn't have anything besides the GT with a v8 in it. so i had to special order this one. it was an LX model hatchback. i didn't opt for air, or anything besides an am/fm radio, as all i was interested in was the hot rod aspect of it.

that car cost me 10k and change. granted it was over 20 years ago, but still..........

[Mark Luper]

Wasn't the original Mustang just a rebodied Comet?

You're not too far off, it was a rebodied Falcon.

Mark

[sluggish]

OK, no chrome bumpers but this one is way cooler than the one they built-

[RATTFINK]

-Automobile Magazine

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/0808_2010_chevrolet_camaro/index.html


Sorry Bronk and CAP, you guys just got PWNT!1!!!

Sux to be jOOOO!!1!!!

 

What's with the Dodge Charger??  LOL!!!  That does not scream Camaro.

[DiabloTX]

Ugh, God no...never liked that concept.  Looks more like a mad Miata...I'll pass.  (In response to Sluggish post)

[clerick]

And it is Cam"a"ro, not Cam"e"ro.  You've had at least 41 years to prepare for that.

I preferred the Firebird anyway, starting with my '73.

[68Wooley]

V6 camaro?  Trying to appeal to the european woman's market?

Get used to it. V8's are incompatible with the 35mpg CAFE target so expect to see more and more blown V6's and I4's.