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Offline Bronk

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #150 on: October 20, 2008, 06:20:00 PM »
Just like the 1LE Camaros.

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #151 on: October 20, 2008, 10:55:43 PM »
Just like the 1LE Camaros & Firebirds.



Sadly, when I got my firebird Pontiac no longer offered 1LE as a stand-alone option.  It was WS-6 or nothing.  Lots of firebird owners bought cheap take-off 1LE swaybars from camaro owners who were doing suspension upgrades, and it really reduces front end bounce in rapid turn transitions.  But you couldn't get that damn swaybar installed from the factory for some stupid reason, and the WS-6 package was $4500 for an additional 15ish hp, 17" wheels, the bigger swaybar, and some bling.   A garage mechanic could beat that for under $1000 in one weekend of bolt-ons, minus the wheels, but then most guys would just put takeoff vette wheels on anyhow because they were wider and weighed less than any of the pontiac options, and some of the vette wheels had the right bolt pattern and a perfect offset to avoid rubbing the fenders so they were a direct bolt-on upgrade with no fiddling required.

But pontiac screwed the pooch by not offering the 1LE package on all V8 firebirds...  I'd have gotten it if they did, an easy extra $100 in GM's pocket.

Interesting on that 1LE.net page, they have some WS-6 firebirds labeled as 1LE...  That seems odd.  The ram-air package came with WS-6 and was a complete waste of money unless you were buying it as a collector car.  What's worse, the WS-6 package bumped the f-body to super stock in SCCA Solo2 even though it was only a slight performance increase for a ton of money.

Maybe they offered 1LE by itself sometime after 1998, but you couldn't get a 1998 firebird with just 1LE, at least not when I bought mine.

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #152 on: October 21, 2008, 04:52:00 PM »
Eagl, it looks like they took the "1LE" suspension option from SLP.  Not a true 1LE in my opinion, escpecially if they still have the AC, power windows and locks, etc...
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #153 on: October 21, 2008, 10:38:56 PM »
agreed it should be a stripped down car with manual windows and locks,no a/c, and should come only in stick.

kinda like the old copo cars, base model on the outside, stripped interior on the inside, and a whole heapin of horsepower under the hood
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #154 on: October 22, 2008, 07:33:53 PM »
NOW i understand what bugs me about the new camAro.  Looks like GM's designers have been watching some old Disney Sci-Fi.    :D



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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #155 on: November 01, 2008, 09:56:59 AM »
NOW i understand what bugs me about the new camAro.  Looks like GM's designers have been watching some old Disney Sci-Fi.    :D


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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #156 on: November 04, 2008, 05:20:29 AM »
LS7 concept


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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #157 on: November 04, 2008, 08:32:06 AM »
LS7 = Z28, I'm betting. That would be awesome.  505hp without a blower like Ford needs.

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #158 on: November 04, 2008, 10:24:06 AM »
LS7 = Z28, I'm betting. That would be awesome.  505hp without a blower like Ford needs.

As for the Diablo special... :devil

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #159 on: November 04, 2008, 10:28:49 AM »
Wow.... Although I love Chevy's my dream muscle car has always been a 69 Chevelle SS 396, but this car looks awesome.
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #160 on: November 04, 2008, 11:09:16 AM »
what engine they using again?

my guess would be the LS7, thats the 427 in the C6 ZO6.

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #161 on: November 04, 2008, 11:26:31 AM »
my guess would be the LS7, thats the 427 in the C6 ZO6.

aahh.....soooo.......505hp from a 427= 1.18 hp/ci.
                          500hp from a 330= 1.51 hp/ci

supercharged or not, it's producing more efficiently.  :D
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #163 on: November 04, 2008, 12:03:06 PM »
Oh man I love the black with red Halo lights. And ls7 variant would be awesome. 505 hp and still itd get 20 mpg

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #164 on: November 04, 2008, 12:36:12 PM »
If the Z/28 comes out and has an LS7 i might have to think about trading mine in.