major problem with video card

[Allen Rune]

nvidia gforce 8400 PCI

The Screwed One

[FLOTSOM]

The Screwed One

oops sorry. i miss understood what your were saying i guess. i thought you ment you removed and replaced your original card with the 8400. so i was still wondering what the original card was.

my bad

FLOTSOM

[Allen Rune]

oops sorry. i miss understood what your were saying i guess. i thought you ment you removed and replaced your original card with the 8400. so i was still wondering what the original card was.

my bad

FLOTSOM

Sorry, got confused, thought you wanted to know what card I'm trying to stick in here. Heres the original:

Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller

Also although I disabled the original, I did not remove it, could that have something to do with it?
I don't know, even if that is the problem and removing it would fix it, I'm not screwing with it anymore until I get someone who knows what they're doing to look at it.

[drdeathx]

OK Allen,


Try this. Go to this link.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_169.21_whql.html

Download these drivers and SAVE IT ON YOUR DESKTOP.
*Go to your start menu/Control panel/Add remove programs. Remove Nvidea drivers.
Reboot computer.
Click on the Nvidea file you saved on your desktop(WHQL Nvidea driver 169)
Install and follow directions.
Reboot


*you can also un-install drivers by right clicking my computer/properties/hardware/device manager/display adapters


You will obviously have to adjust your resolution but this should work, Good luck and let us know!

[BaldEagl]

Sorry, got confused, thought you wanted to know what card I'm trying to stick in here. Heres the original:

Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller

Also although I disabled the original, I did not remove it, could that have something to do with it?
I don't know, even if that is the problem and removing it would fix it, I'm not screwing with it anymore until I get someone who knows what they're doing to look at it.

You need to both disable the on-board video in the BIOS and remove it's drivers.  If you don't remove the drivers before installing the new ones it's likely to create a conflict.

If you did install the new drivers before uninstalling the previous ones, then uninstalled the previous ones, some driver files may have been left behind which would still create a potential conflict.  If this is the case, then uninstall the new drivers too (making sure the old ones are also uninstalled) and then reinstall the new ones.  You might also want to run a driver cleaner before installing the new drivers to remove any potential residual files although you probably won't need to.

I know this sounds like a hassle but it's really not that hard.  Maybe 15-20 minutes.

[Skuzzy]

Baldeagle is quite right.

[drdeathx]

ooops bald forgot that thanks thought he had it

[drdeathx]

under the assumption he was using same video card

[Allen Rune]

Ok, I went and screwed with it again even tho I said I wasn't going to anymore, and I think I found the problem. In the device manager the old card will not uninstall or be disabled. When I select uninstall it says the computer has to restart, so I restart, and I fined that it is not uninstalled and is still enabled in the device manager. The Intel is in a PCI slot so I don't think its an on-board, and I did go to the BOIS but it was already set to PCI.

Anyone know why the stupid thing won't leave me alone?

[Skuzzy]

The process is exact for removing old video cards.  The following assumes an onboard video chip.

1)  Remove the drivers for the offending video card/chip.
2)  Reboot the computer
3)  VERY IMPPORTANT!  When the computer goes to reboot, you MUST NOT allow the computer to boot to Windows.  You MUST enter the BIOS setup utility and DISABLE the onboard video chip.  If you allow the computer to boot to WIndows, you will have to start all over.
4)  Save the BIOS settings, shut the power down on the computer BEFORE it can boot to Windows.
5)  Install the new video card.
6)  Power up and boot to Windows.

Now, here is the rub.  Some OEM computers were not designed to allow you to upgrade the video.  If there is no PCI-E slot, ro AGP slot, there is a pretty good chance you cannot upgrade the video.  Contacting the OEM and asking them is the best way to be sure if the system was designed to be upgraded.

The OEM will also be able to tell you exactly where the BIOS option is to shut off the onboard video chip.

If the video is an add in card, then it is simpler.

1)  Remove the drivers for the offending video card.
2)  Shutdown the computer
3)  Open the computer and remove the old card.
4)  Install the new card.
5)  Install the new video card.
6)  Power up and boot to Windows.

[Allen Rune]

3)  Open the computer and remove the old card.

NOW YOU TELL ME!

I think I got it working, this time I used add/remove programs to uninstall the old one. Its still in there, but this time it is shown as disabled and everything seems to be working fine with the new one.

[Allen Rune]

Ok, it seemed like it was working, until it locked up and wouldn't let me boot back to descktop without getting either a blank screen or a screwed up bunch of colors again. I'm thinking left-over driver files from the other one are causing conflict, can anyone recomend a good driver cleaner?






3 pages and it still ain't fixed...

[BaldEagl]

Ok, it seemed like it was working, until it locked up and wouldn't let me boot back to descktop without getting either a blank screen or a screwed up bunch of colors again. I'm thinking left-over driver files from the other one are causing conflict, can anyone recomend a good driver cleaner?






3 pages and it still ain't fixed...

NOW YOU TELL ME!

I think I got it working, this time I used add/remove programs to uninstall the old one. Its still in there, but this time it is shown as disabled and everything seems to be working fine with the new one.

Take it out.

[Allen Rune]

Took it out after it locked up, no difference.

[Allen Rune]

Somethin really wierd is going on. This time, I first uninstalled the Intel drivers with add/remove programs, then went to device manager and disabled the card and uninstalled it from there. I shut the computer off, took out the intel and put in the nvidia, started up in safe mode, and I found the intel still listed in device manager as if it was being used. I then disabled and unistalled it AGAIN, and then installed the nvidia drivers, restarted, and it wouldn't even get to the desktop. Just a blank screen. I tried again, and every time it kept saying it had both the nvidia and the intel connected when I had the intel in a box a good 4 feet from the slot.

I have no clue, perhaps it was made this way just to screw me over?