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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #195 on: December 24, 2008, 10:05:02 PM »
The similarities are...profound.
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #196 on: December 24, 2008, 10:10:10 PM »
Actually, I meant you were doing such a poor job defending yourself, that any help I could give was wasted effort, just as it was a waste for GB to try to save Norway.

Oh snap.

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #197 on: December 24, 2008, 10:21:58 PM »
LOL -- now you are getting into the spirit!

Actually, I meant you were doing such a poor job defending yourself, that any help I could give was wasted effort, just as it was a waste for GB to try to save Norway.

But, since you show (finally) a little bit of a sense of humor, here is the link I deleted.  It should give you some insight as to why GtoRA2 has been calling you "Francis."   :aok



i remember sneaking in to see that movie at the theaters when i was a kid. loved that movie.  :rofl

have a good night sir  :aok

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #198 on: December 25, 2008, 01:18:45 AM »
interesting thread but jeez stop the bum chumming and get back on track.

hangtime has been repeatedly banging away with the truth and yet some of you dumb chits still don't get it.. must be genetics

to me its simple

if someone collaborates with savages in an attempt to to save their own arse while all around them said savages butchers their neighbours then they are DESPICABLE COWARDS.

that's all i can say on the subject without breaking some rule or pc law

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #199 on: December 25, 2008, 04:03:58 AM »
Ahh back from celebrating Santa's birthday.

Does anyone care to sum up the thread so far? Anyting interesting new bits from Hangtime, Diablo and CO or are have they come up with any concrete things that they can back up?.

Keep it short please, im still in holiday mood.  :)

What i have so far:

Quisling was scum... correct but that isnt news
Norway _never_ surrendered... correct and that is not news either
Royals and government left and set up in London from witch they continued the fight... correct


Anyting more i have missed?

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #200 on: December 25, 2008, 04:22:36 AM »
What enabled the Royal family to escape was the bold sinking of the heavy cruiser Blucher in the Oslo fjord, correct.
They carried on fighting with their families under the Nazi boot,- correct.
The Nazi boot meant camps in Norway, abducting people under the cover of darkness, torture, executions, random executions, Sachenhausen and in one case a village raized, correct.
Generally the Norse patriots and fighters, both the resistance and armed forces were refered to as extremely tough and professional, correct.

And Merry christmas to you Norse Nilsen!
Here is a little christmas present.
Some years back, a Norse special force excercized with the US forces at the airbase in Keflavik. Some 10 Norsemen went into hiding within the perimeter, and the US were supposed to find them.
After the sweep, only one had been found. (They had stepped on his finger).
I belive this was some kind of a anti-terrorist sweep, probably in combination with a practise which is every few years.
As fine as they get in outdoor drills, the Norse. BTW, I came very close to applying for getting into the Norse army in 1989....
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #201 on: December 25, 2008, 04:29:40 AM »
What enabled the Royal family to escape was the bold sinking of the heavy cruiser Blucher in the Oslo fjord, correct.
They carried on fighting with their families under the Nazi boot,- correct.
The Nazi boot meant camps in Norway, abducting people under the cover of darkness, torture, executions, random executions, Sachenhausen and in one case a village raized, correct.
Generally the Norse patriots and fighters, both the resistance and armed forces were refered to as extremely tough and professional, correct.

And Merry christmas to you Norse Nilsen!
Here is a little christmas present.
Some years back, a Norse special force excercized with the US forces at the airbase in Keflavik. Some 10 Norsemen went into hiding within the perimeter, and the US were supposed to find them.
After the sweep, only one had been found. (They had stepped on his finger).
I belive this was some kind of a anti-terrorist sweep, probably in combination with a practise which is every few years.
As fine as they get in outdoor drills, the Norse. BTW, I came very close to applying for getting into the Norse army in 1989....


Sounds like a pretty accurate summary Angus. Last week a new norwgian movie had a premiere. I dont know if you get norwegian movies on the cinemas in Iceland, but if you understand norwegian well enough to enjoy it you may want to get it when its released on DVD. Movie is called Max Manus and is the story of one of the most famous resistance fighters. It has gotten great reviews and when the missus har recoverd from her nasty flu ill take her :)

Im guessing the 10 norwegians were marinejegere (seals). Ive worked with them and one of my dads friends was one of them. Really tough guys.

Merry Christmas to you too Angus...  :)

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #202 on: December 25, 2008, 04:32:38 AM »
Ahh back from celebrating Santa's birthday.

Does anyone care to sum up the thread so far? Anyting interesting new bits from Hangtime, Diablo and CO or are have they come up with any concrete things that they can back up?.

Keep it short please, im still in holiday mood.  :)

What i have so far:

Quisling was scum... correct but that isnt news
Norway _never_ surrendered... correct and that is not news either
Royals and government left and set up in London from witch they continued the fight... correct


Anyting more i have missed?

Oh, crap Nils.. sorry to be the one to tell you; but while you were out, Norway surrendered.

Again.

Do try and keep up next time.

Oh, and Merry Christmas to you and the rest of the surrender monkey team, and thanks for playing!

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...at home, or abroad.

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #203 on: December 25, 2008, 04:37:52 AM »
Oh, crap Nils.. sorry to be the one to tell you; but while you were out, Norway surrendered.

Again.

Do try and keep up next time.

Oh, and Merry Christmas to you and the rest of the surrender monkey team, and thanks for playing!



I still see you have _nothing_ Hangtime. Merry Christmas to you too and hopefully you got some books or other educational material for christmas.

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« Reply #204 on: December 25, 2008, 07:40:28 AM »
Hello again!
Nilsen, I think you are right there. Anyway, they dug in for hiding in a perimeter where it's really hard to hide.
Moss and Lava, sort of sums it up. The one found was by an american steping on his finger!
This is how the tale goes, but I got it while at the U.S. base. I worked there once in the fields, so I know the scape, and then I was once a spectator for Jet inspection etc, which is when I was told this one.
Was kind of a hush-hush, since the outcome was embarrasing. Well, not for some  :t
I'll have a lookie if there is something I find about this movie. I can understand Norwegian, as well as speak some....well the Norse think I'm a Swede, and the other way around  :cry
My great aunt lived in Norway during the war and was AFAIK somewhat involved in the resistance. I visited her in Oslo (in the 80's), and the little she said was quite chilling. Got me thinking about how it was being "under the boot" in that way.
Anyway, merry Christmas to Hangtime as well. Maybe he did get literature (paper) to read. I recommend material about the first proper engagements between the USA and the Germans on land, which was years after the Europeans had a taste of the "machine works" of the Germans. Well....difficult to compare, I guess, but the USA had the distance from their homeland to learn the bloody lesson....after being lectured by the Brits about it. And their families were not under the power of the enemy...
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #205 on: December 25, 2008, 01:34:00 PM »
Lets see, Nils takes a convenient break, lays back for 2 days, lets his 'allies' bear the brunt of the battle, they are defeated, they surrender, then Nils strolls back in and declares once again, 'Norway never surrendered'. LOL.. how very.. typical.

Angus; you picked the wrong 'example'. While the Germans enjoyed early success at Kasserine, they also found The Hammer was no longer theirs alone to wield. I am proud to say I served in the same Division that stopped him cold there..

Look up 9th Infantry Division Artillery Kasserine Pass.

Nils, I'd like you to learn a little too about Scandinavian History. Read up on the Winter War. Explain, contrast and compare the Finn's defiance and successful defense of their Nation with 30 tanks and 130 planes and 225,000 men..  against a force of 1 million, 6,500 tanks and 3,000 aircraft...

..with Norway's token defense and capitulation after the loss of only 1,330 men.
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #206 on: December 25, 2008, 01:39:59 PM »
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Well....difficult to compare, I guess, but the USA had the distance from their homeland to learn the bloody lesson....after being lectured by the Brits about it. And their families were not under the power of the enemy...

That distance works both ways. It didn't stop us - and we took on Japan at the same time, went that distance, too.

America, **** yeah!
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #207 on: December 25, 2008, 01:45:07 PM »
Lets see, Nils takes a convenient break, lays back for 2 days, lets his 'allies' bear the brunt of the battle, they are defeated, they surrender, then Nils strolls back in and declares once again, 'Norway never surrendered'. LOL.. how very.. typical.

Angus; you picked the wrong 'example'. While the Germans enjoyed early success at Kasserine, they also found The Hammer was no longer theirs alone to wield. I am proud to say I served in the same Division that stopped him cold there..

Look up 9th Infantry Division Artillery Kasserine Pass.

Nils, I'd like you to learn a little too about Scandinavian History. Read up on the Winter War. Explain, contrast and compare the Finn's defiance and successful defense of their Nation with 30 tanks and 130 planes and 225,000 men..  against a force of 1 million, 6,500 tanks and 3,000 aircraft...

..with Norway's token defense and capitulation after the loss of only 1,330 men.

Im sorry for not answering your posts, but its Xmas here and i have far better things to do than answer someone who has no idea what he is talking about or never have been invaded by anyone.

I dont know where you got if from that norway surrendered, but find proof. Again read a book and start learning some history before you spread lies that you cannot prove. A few years ago what you say would be nothing more than nazi propaganda.

Facts please..

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« Reply #208 on: December 25, 2008, 02:11:01 PM »


Facts please..
Fact
King fled like a scalded cat carrying off his lewtz.

Fact
Fact general left defending had to surrender or else.

Fact
Quisling was such a huge collaborator,  quisling is interchangeable with collaborator now.


Did I miss anything?
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #209 on: December 25, 2008, 02:21:32 PM »
Fact
King fled like a scalded cat carrying off his lewtz.

No, he left for England for the purpose of continuing the fight and make sure he was not captured with the propaganda that would give the germans. He initially wanted to stay with his people but his "crew" persuaded him to leave for the above reasons. If the govenment and King had been captured they would have to surrender and the merchant fleet would fall into german hands etc etc... read up on it. Plenty of info.

Fact
Fact general left defending had to surrender or else.

The genral surrendered the soldiers under his comand because the brits and the french decided to leave because they where needed elsewere. He could do little but lay down the little arms he had left or be slaughthered.

Fact
Quisling was such a huge collaborator,  quisling is interchangeable with collaborator now.

Yes. So what? One guy has become the synonymous with treason and collaberation. When was that ever debated or denied here or anywere?


Did I miss anything?

No not much, but what does this have to do with Hangtimes lies?