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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #120 on: January 12, 2009, 03:19:18 PM »
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Two fine wrong examples of pit bulls. Both animals are heavily muscled (one more so than the other), powerful animals. Yes, they are smaller than Rottweilers but they are not a small dog. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that either animal pictured here could do grievous bodily harm if they became violent.

Out of the millions and millions of dogs kept as pets in this country only a small percentage of them actually bite humans.





sorry but that bottom pic IS NOT A PITTBULL, it is a gross misrepresentation, the top one is far More APBT, again looks has nothing to do with it, it is weight that matters, APBT, that were too big and muscular, for one they are NEW,  A true Fighting pitt IS not A body builder but more like a cross country runner, he should have long lungs, not wide, longer lungs allow more air which in turn allows longer fights,  again you can't tell what it is by looks, in the world of "APBT" it is weight that counts.
lol check this out
mind you I did a quick search after I saw the two pics you posted, I knew right away the bottom pic was not a APBT, even though the "owners" im sure they will tell you they are "Pittbulls"   

NOT



this is quoted from website.
  " ...which is the APBT can you guess?


"did you make your guess?
its the second from the right on the bottom
did you get it right?
if so,good for you! if not, you need to do a little more research about the breed."

here is the link
http://www.doggonegoodtraining.net/APBT.html

another good read on APBT
http://greylinepitbulls.kinnemankennels.com/2007/06/pit-bull-info-from-wikipedia.html

this is a "PITTBULL"  A true "American Pit bull terrier" or "APBT"
I highly doubt this dog would ever attack a human, BUT unless trained to NOT fight keep all other dogs away!

and another
http://www.realpitbull.com/id.html


find the pittbull
Yes I guessed it right, can you? be Honest!!!!!!
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #121 on: January 12, 2009, 04:17:33 PM »
 

if the dog is over 60 LBS ITS NOT A PITTBULL don't you people get it. A TRUE "AMERICAN PITTBULL TERRIER" will not attack people unless protecting his pack, or it was badly abused, they DO NOT MAKE GOOD GUARD DOGS, they love people to much, that is a fact even though you want to clump all these types of dogs into one breed it simply is not the case, these dogs,  are not human fighters, but when the modern man got a hold of them and started to breed all types of other breeds into the line they moved away from the traits that "dogmen" breed for IE, love of fighting, love of people, and have lost those quality's that make a true "American pitbull terrier" the greatest dog ever!!!
  I have seen these dogs first hand lived with a individual who breed both APBT and American Staffordshire terriers, the "guard" dogs were all around 90 LBS,"AM-staffs" the "fighting" dogs "APBT" were all around 50 LBS, the females were only 40. if you wanted a "guard" to protect the family, house, Garage, you got the Am-staff, if you wanted a dog "fighter" you got the "APBT" the "APBT" make horrible Guard dogs, why? you ask... THEY FRIGGEN LOVE PEOPLE,



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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #122 on: January 12, 2009, 04:34:41 PM »
Ink the American Pit Bull Terrier isn't the only breed called *Pit Bulls*. The American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the American Pit Bull Terrier are all collectively called Pit Bulls, right or wrong, that's the way it is. All 3 breeds have at one point been bred for fighting but in all fairness there are also breeders that breed these same dogs for shows where any aggressive behavior towards humans or other dogs can lead to disqualification.
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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #124 on: January 12, 2009, 04:42:55 PM »
Your point?

Did you even read it? 

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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #125 on: January 12, 2009, 05:00:17 PM »
Did you even read it? 



Yep, I read it the first time it was linked in this thread. What was your point in linking it a second time?
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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #126 on: January 12, 2009, 05:00:51 PM »
The thing is that screwed up folks make screwed up dogs, and their choice is something easy, with a reputation, and a talent for mauling the victim. Hence those pit bulls.
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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #127 on: January 12, 2009, 05:17:12 PM »
Yep, I read it the first time it was linked in this thread. What was your point in linking it a second time?

A post was made claiming that American Pit Bull Terriers do not attack people unless protecting a pack or were badly abused.  The study and data in the link shows that Pit Bull Terriers are responsible for more attacks on humans than all other breeds combined (including pit bull mixes).

So, are we to believe that PBTs are that much more abused?  Or is there a difference between "Pit Bull Terriers" and "American Pit Bull Terriers" (the later of which is not even on the list)?
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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #128 on: January 12, 2009, 05:21:51 PM »
A post was made claiming that American Pit Bull Terriers do not attack people unless protecting a pack or were badly abused.  The study and data in the link shows that Pit Bull Terriers are responsible for more attacks on humans than all other breeds combined (including pit bull mixes).

So, are we to believe that PBTs are that much more abused?  Or is there a difference between "Pit Bull Terriers" and "American Pit Bull Terriers" (the later of which is not even on the list)?

my point is what is called" Pittbulls" on that list are not American Pit bull terriers,  they are most Likely American Staffordshire terriers. or a number of offshoot breedings.

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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #129 on: January 12, 2009, 05:30:53 PM »
This is a site for     
American Temperament Test Society, Inc.
it has figures through study of many dogs, check it out. You'll be surprised.



http://www.atts.org/index.html


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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #130 on: January 12, 2009, 05:40:39 PM »
But if they have such a good temperament why is 2% of the dog population responsible for nearly 75% of the reported bites?

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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #131 on: January 12, 2009, 05:46:21 PM »
my point is what is called" Pittbulls" on that list are not American Pit bull terriers,  they are most Likely American Staffordshire terriers. or a number of offshoot breedings.

So what you call "American Pitbull Terrier" and what is called "Pitbull Terrier" on the list two completely different things?  "American Pitbull Terrier" is not even listed. 

So, either the "American Pitbull Terrier" is less agressive than a Poodle, or this man http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/weeklyforum/biomclifton.cfm  (the man who compiled the data) does not know how to classify his dogs.

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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #132 on: January 12, 2009, 07:29:13 PM »
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A post was made claiming that American Pit Bull Terriers do not attack people unless protecting a pack or were badly abused.  The study and data in the link shows that Pit Bull Terriers are responsible for more attacks on humans than all other breeds combined (including pit bull mixes).

That is incorrect. The pit bulls are responsible for more fatal attacks, they are not responsible for more bites in general than all other breeds combined.

*edit* One thing about his study that makes it suspect is he claims as much as 2/3 of all the dog attacks were unprovoked and no warning given by the dog. I submit that people just don't know what to look for in the dog's body language.
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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #133 on: January 12, 2009, 07:33:38 PM »
But if they have such a good temperament why is 2% of the dog population responsible for nearly 75% of the reported bites?

They aren't responsible for 75% of reported bites, they are responsible for more fatal attacks, there is a difference. And no one knows exactly how many of each breed of dog is out there so saying pit bulls are only 2% of the dog population may or may not be accurate.
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Re: Man kills pit bull who attacks his wife & dogs
« Reply #134 on: January 12, 2009, 07:44:59 PM »
That is incorrect. The pit bulls are responsible for more fatal attacks, they are not responsible for more bites in general than all other breeds combined.

Really?  The Clifton study shows a total of 2209 "attacks causing bodily harm" by all breeds included in the study.  Of those, the Pit Bull Terrier is responsible for 1110 of them. 

Some quick math will show that all other breeds account for 1099 attacks.  1110 is greater than 1099.  Am I missing something?
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