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Offline fudgums

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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #150 on: November 22, 2009, 10:09:32 AM »
Rangoon +4
BoB08 +4
Tunisia +4.5
Coral Sea +2
Red Storm +5

Enjoyed every frame. Usually outnumbered but was very fun.

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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #151 on: November 22, 2009, 07:28:44 PM »
Coral Sea +4
Red Storm / Krupp Steel +4

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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #152 on: November 24, 2009, 08:26:01 PM »
Red Storm/Krupp Steel: +4

Good scenario setup, good balances, had a lot of fun.  Would love to see it played again, hopefuly soon with some minor tweaking and retooling of the rules and map a bit.  I felt this scenario ranks up there amongst the best, if not having the potential to be one of the top scenarios.

I thought the action kicked off a little too strong sometimes and felt a bit MA-ish, with us being given the green to fly, and then combat breaking out over the targets 10-minutes after that.  It gave barely enough time if any for those defending to get in there and setup in their desired and orderly fashion.  From my axis perspective, even though good planning and orders were given and passed down well in advance, operations felt more like a mass-scramble to quickly defend against an iminute enemy raid than an orderly and established defensive operation in previously established friendly/enemy airspace.  If that's the way it historicaly was, then that's the way it was, but I guess we shouldn't diss the MA gaming style for being so unreal and gamey then.  I would like to see the defenders start closer and the attackers a little further back from the targets if we run this scenario again.

The GV and Aircraft interaction limitations seem to of bogged things down for the GVs more than streamlining things into going in the desired direction (was a good idea with good intentions, but it just didn't work out and caused a sour taste in some players mouths when the elaborate rules were stretched anyways resulting in aircraft still providing an undesireable headache to GVs).  Hopefuly things work out better in the next GV scenario.  My idea for the next one is see ordnance limitations on attacking GVs with aircraft (IE: make it so nothing larger than a 100lb or 50lb bomb/rockets are used against GVs and they might have a much better chance.  1000lb and 500lb bombs on GVs is like shooting fish in a barel.  However using only lighter bombs to kill a GV is worthy of some points to the victorious attacker imo.  Smaller ords against GVs would also result in more non-lethal hits, increasing the importance of active V-resupply).
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #153 on: November 26, 2009, 09:39:53 AM »
Red Storm / Krupp Steel +4
My thoughts are that the numbers may have been adjusted and should be tweeked on several levels. Also, the GV format should be retooled as well.
Our (AXIS) internal issues began right after the Beta and were a major distraction for me personally. That said, I still believe the Scenario format was Good to Very Good.

I think the AXIS, from my point of view, could have had 24 bombers with 2 lives each like the allies. Adjusting for load out was not, IMO, really fair since the AXIS had as many strats and objective fields off and on. In Frames 3 and 4, and maybe even 1 and 2, the battle lines drawn - Ill use 3 & 4 as an example, since all bases were GV, then only GVs should be involved. The AXIS GVs ONLY can take A31 (V31), and the ALLIED GVs ONLY can take their objective bases V23, A34, and A68. No Air Cover at all. No Attack planes-at all. Its a duke it out on the ground thing. Maybe a bomber attack for towns only called in by FAC.

All-in-all, being part of Command was an eye-opener in this one, and certainly gave me respect for those who had come before me. I thank Brooke, Fencer, the CMs and my special thanks to Redtail7 for giving me the opportunity to serve with him. I made my share of mistakes and bad calls and expect I will do some of them again.

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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #154 on: May 16, 2010, 05:56:55 PM »
Tunisia - +2 (B-17G)
Coral Sea - +4 (D3A1 + SBD)
Krupp Steel - +2 (Bf109G-6)
The Final Battle - +2.5 (Tiff)


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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #155 on: May 17, 2010, 03:32:41 PM »
ive only flown in two, but i liked the early war events

Coral Sea: +5
The Final Battle: +4 (only because my squad had 5-6 GREEN replacement pilots every frame :()
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #156 on: August 31, 2010, 03:40:54 PM »
Philippine Phandango:  +10

One of the funnest ones I've participated in a while.  Flew with a great group of pilots, orders were clear and we ran into the action at least twice every frame.
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #157 on: August 31, 2010, 03:58:46 PM »
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #158 on: August 31, 2010, 05:05:25 PM »
PP was also by far my favortie scenario. the action was intense, i flew with a great group of guys, walkons were'nt a hassle, and overall i had a ton of fun, which is what a scenario should be about
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #159 on: August 31, 2010, 09:43:37 PM »
I've give Philippine Phandango a +2.

Pros:

1. P38s were available.  :devil

2. We always saw action, no matter what.

3. Altitude limits were great, I like having them in place.

4. Plane set was good, considering what was available within Aces High. Missed seeing Oscars though.

5. My FL, Rapier, absolutely saved this scenario for me.

Cons

1. There was very little fog of war- orders shouldn't of been able to be viewed by both sides. Knowing exactly what you're going to face isn't that appealing to me.

2. The CTD bug made this scenario (at times) a chore for me. No fault of the CMs, but it hurt game play, particularly with long range escort.

3. The whining about the scenario happenings literally followed me into the Main Arena.
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #160 on: September 01, 2010, 01:43:08 AM »
Rangoon 2008: +3
Philippine Phandango: +2

Maybe it was 'cause it was my first scenario, but I liked Rangoon a bit better, even with the debilitating problems when too many aircraft showed up at the same place and time.  It had a good feel of an epic sized battle, the downwind did a good job of enforcing the alt cap that (artificially) evened the sides' aircraft for better balance and more fun.


If I were to be asked to improve PP (and many of these I wouldn't have said before the scenario, so I'm in no way complaining that these weren't done):

I'd either change the mission orders to use each aircraft at what they're best at.  For example, no more KI-61s doing ground or ship attack while the Nikis are doing fighter cover... that just doesn't make sense as the Niki is Japan's best attack-fighter thanks to the cannons and large ammo load.  The KI-61 is positively misused in that role when the NIKI is available.  (If that means the Nikis never get to provide fighter cover, oh well... sign up for one of the KIs.)  Alternatively I'd change the mission orders to give each commanders the same objectives but not the orders of which air groups to use to achieve them.

Unless its positively impossible due to it just not happening at all in the historical context (which I'm not sure of), I'd allow the possibility that that two fleets would meet at least twice during the frame.  I was really disappointed when I realized there would be no (intentional) ship to ship broadsides going on.

I'd make four maps instead of one, one for each frame, each one altered only for which bases and strats each side owns that frame.  That way bases could be "captured" as the Allies move forward, and there'd be no need to bomb your own strats.

I'd put in more bombers.  I know its hard to get people to fly them, but its real tough to be given orders to shoot down the other side's bombers, look on the roster and see that they only have 8 formations surrounded by 48 fighters.

I'd plan on fewer numbers and expand if needed rather than plan on more numbers and reduce numbers when needed.  Especially, as was the case in PP, that one side has much more Main-Arena-popular aircraft than the other.  It'd be better to have people camping out for a slot in the scenario than to be begging people that don't really want to be there.

There's a problem that people running at low resolution can see bogies further away than people with a high res monitor (at least that's how it was explained to me that certain people repeatedly saw bogies that I didn't see until they were closer).  Maybe people have figured out that and they deliberately run at a lower resolution, I don't know.  But until this is fixed, I'd extend the enemy icon range to 4k and pull the dot range in by 1k.

Apparently we need to give the Japanese side an even greater numerical advantage than they already had in this scenario.  I think the main problem is that the P-38 and F4U, and to a lesser extend the P-47, all enjoy a larger following in the main arenas than most of the Japanese aircraft (possibly excepting the NIKI).  So the people flying for the Japanese side were largely inexperienced with their aircraft, while a greater percentage of the people flying the American aircraft were very familiar with theirs.  Call it the Delirium effect, if you will (at least I didn't see Indiana around).

I'd keep all squadrons at a standard size, instead of seemingly random sizes (unless there's a real good reason), with for example one Niki group having 14 planes and a KI-61 group with 6 aircraft.  All that serves is to do is divide and conquer the smaller groups (and its why I signed up for the 14 aircraft NIKI group).

I'd put a severe downwind at 27k in addition to the dot dar at 26k.  There needs to be some hard limit, even if its a non-issue as it was in this scenario, I think it should be there.

I'd put it in the rules explicitly if "vulching" is allowed or not.  Pre-emptive strike against whining.  (It was my opinion in this scenario btw that it was allowed and a good idea to do it if you could, I'm not trying to slam on the Allies for using a legit strategy.)
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #161 on: September 01, 2010, 02:07:56 PM »
Philippine Phandango: +5

I really enjoyed the layout of this one. The group I was with was amazing, a great bunch of guys that knows how to enjoy themselves. Really you can't ask for much more.

Also, this being my 7th consecutive Scenario, I thought all the firsts would be gone by now. There were still a few firsts for me in this one though and that kept my interest high.

A big <S> to KKEN, Brooke, Fencer, Spikes, WMLute for taking the lead and everyone else involved for making this such a great event.

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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #162 on: September 03, 2010, 01:25:58 PM »
Thanks twizzty....

My personal view for Philippine Phandango +5 ...

Was certainly fun, provided more than ample action for 98% of the folks, ...and because it was a "First Run" in many ways, with HQ Orders, 2 Rookie CO's (in the beginning), and a few kinks here and there, I gave it that score out of kindness.  :)
Had it been a subsequent running, maybe still a +4. Sadly, I will not evaluate my performance in this, as I have no clue where I did good, only where I did bad!  :)  At least, I am thinking about it right now.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda   :rofl


A re-run of this will be most pleasurable, IMO, once some of the suggestions and initial kinks are cleared up. It would also be an excellent candidate for a Frame 3 and 4 "switch sides" event. (I think)


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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #163 on: September 03, 2010, 04:07:10 PM »
Because of the design of PP, I would think switching sides every other frame would work perfectly.

Frames 1-2 were almost identical as were 3 - 4.

For example Frames 1-3 you would be Axis and Frames 2-4 Allied or vs. versa.

Love this idea.



I give PP, all in all, a 3.5.  Needs much tweaking and refining.
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Re: Survey -- your favorite and least favorite scenarios
« Reply #164 on: September 03, 2010, 04:31:56 PM »
My feelings are close to the same as Twizzty's. I have participated in four scenarios since coming to AH, and each has had unique experiences for me in some way.

My first was a BoB. I don't remember exactly what year but it was awhile ago. I was allied, in a Spit I  scout squadron and Badboy was my GL. Badboy published an outstanding manual outlining relative strengths and weaknesses of the various aircraft and suitable tactics for fighting. I still have it. (If I didn't say thanks then BB, I'm saying it now  :salute )

The next three have been more recent. 

Coral Sea. Swapping sides was neat, gave everybody a taste of the other guys challenges. Very memorable because I happened to shoot my wingman/GL, Fencer down. A clean canopy shot, he never felt a thing. It was his fault BTW. ;)

TFB.  I think it was all escort duty in a Pony for me. A nice leisurely flight, chatting and telling jokes over the channel, punctuated with minutes of mayhem trying to keep the Huns away from the bombers, then hunting Germans or..... escaping from them, depending on the frame.

And now PhilPhan.  I was far more involved, since in a moment of weakness I volunteered for GL duty. And flying the Corsair was a treat since its been my ride in the MA's for some time now.

They were all my favorite at the time they were over. And I enjoyed each immensely, but for different reasons. In thinking back, I believe I personally saw lots of action in all four scenarios and in almost every frame.

You want a score?  They all get a plus ten from me, this whole thing gets a plus ten from me, coming from the dark ages of no computers and virtual realities.

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