RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!

[999000]

Ok might be a bad rumor ..but would be a great addition to the game!
<S> 999000 Check out Black Cat squads

[AWwrgwy]

Yay.  Another slow bomber.  Didn't see them flying in formations much either.

Oh the conundrums.


wrongway

[Spyder]

 

[uptown]

I'd love to be able to resupply from a CV with a PBY.................

[1pLUs44]

I'd love to be able to resupply from a CV with a PBY.................

Couldn't it hold 2 torpedoes? I could imagine people going 60mph on the water with the dang thing and dropping them 100 feet away under the dar.

[uptown]

Yeah it carried torpedoes, but I gave up on hitting anything with them long ago.

[Saxman]

Couldn't it hold 2 torpedoes? I could imagine people going 60mph on the water with the dang thing and dropping them 100 feet away under the dar.

Four torpedoes or 4000lbs of bombs. She also carried depth charges....

 

[1pLUs44]

Yeah it carried torpedoes, but I gave up on hitting anything with them long ago.

I personally think it would be very good for anti-CV defense.

You could put it out at a PT spawn, get it going 60+ MPH, but not flying, and approach, when you get up, rev it to full power (either max speed, or cruising is like 180, still VERY slow) and just drop the torps when you get close.

Here's what wiki says:

Performance

    * Maximum speed: 196 mph (314 km/h)
    * Cruise speed: 125 mph (201 km/h)
    * Range: 2,520 mi (4,030 km)
    * Service ceiling 15,800 ft (4,000 m)
    * Rate of climb: 1,000 ft/min (5.1 m/s)
    * Wing loading: 25.3 lb/ft² (123.6 kg/m²)
    * Power/mass: 0.034 hp/lb (0.056 kW/kg)

    * Lift-to-drag ratio: 11.9

Armament

    * 3× .30 cal (7.62 mm) machine guns (two in nose turret, one in ventral hatch at tail)
    * 2× .50 cal (12.7 mm) machine guns (one in each waist blister)
    * 4,000 lb (1,814 kg) of bombs or depth charges, torpedo racks were also available


But I get max speeds of everything from 175-185 to even 200+ on some other sites.


Heres 179 from Warbird Alley:
Specifications (PBY-5A):
        Engines: Two 1,200-hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-92 Twin Wasp radial piston engines
        Weight: Empty 20,910 lbs., Max Takeoff 35,420 lbs.
        Wing Span: 104ft. 0in.
        Length: 63ft. 10.5in.
        Height: 20ft. 2in.
        Performance:
            Maximum Speed: 179 mph
            Long-Range Cruising Speed: 117 mph
            Ceiling: 14,700 ft.
            Range: 2,545 miles
        Armament:
            Five 7.62-mm (0.3-inch) machine guns
            Up to 4,000 pounds of bombs or depth charges

http://www.warbirdalley.com/cat.htm

[Sgtlead]

I think it would be a great addition.  Make it so you could fly out and land by a cv and resup it, pt spawn was good idea to.  It had a lot of good uses and yes they did hunt subs in wolfpacks.  Just saw it on military channel the other night.

Im all for it.

[pxdig]

pic ?

[StokesAk]

One of my Friends, Ruler2, made a squad based on the PBY. VP-11 "Black Cats"

[Ack-Ack]

Painted as a Blackcat



ack-ack

[Megalodon]

Here is a great site some good stories and some great photos.

http://www.daveswarbirds.com/blackcat/



"Rare color photo of a Black Cat, on the island of Guam in April 1945. Note the late-war radome above the cockpit. This photo has also been identified as a photo ship for VMD-354 on Okinawa, with the aircraft being a PBN-1 (the equivalent of a PBY6-A, manufactured by the Naval Aircraft Factory in Philadelphia).  (photo: William Derby, Jr.)"


"Black Cat crews were frequently experimenting with new weapons setups, trying to find the best way to do the maximum amount of damage. The unusual field installation shown above is a pair of fixed 20mm cannons mounted in the bow of a PBY-5A, during April of 1944. (Dave Lucabaugh)
Note removal of the two 30cal. machine guns from the eyeball turret above."



wooo I found mine!


This would be a great addition to the game , a real rescue plane. When pilots bail over water they get a raft.

[Saxman]

Unfortunately we're not likely to get a field mod like those 20mm.

[SectorNine50]

I'm gonna get chewed out for referencing a video game like this, but the PBY in COD5 (cringe...) has 20mm and 30mm in the... I think ventricle or the chin turret... can't remember.  Out of curiosity, where would they get the idea to put those guns on the plane in-game?