Skuzzy Help : New System keeps locking Up.

[The Fugitive]

Ok a Bug ... That only Aces High hits..That seems a bit odd to me. Thank you for explaining.

FYI. I have another machine with onboard sound and although its a single socket A board. I RAN ONBOARD SOUND FOR 3 Years..Humm  (Nvidia Soundstorm)

Kam

On board sound is ok as long as you have the CPU power to go along with it. With todays computers Vista is a hog and takes a bunch of memory and CPU. So while you may have a better computer, it has to run a lot more crap than it use to.

Custom sounds while they do add a lot to the game are not always the best idea. Some people pump them up, or use better quality sounds to really make it better. However, when you do that it takes more power to run them. If you have a separate sound card the processing power comes from there, but if you have on-board sound the processing power comes from your CPU.... which you really need to run the game and all that other crap vista believes you need running 

The problem with the AMD processors is well documented, and is nothing in the game. Aces High uses "hyper-threading" which is what the dual CPUs is suppose to support, but AMD's code is a bit different and doesn't react the way all the other processor do.

[Skuzzy]

Ok a Bug ... That only Aces High hits..That seems a bit odd to me. Thank you for explaining.

Actually a couple of other programs hit the same bug.  It only happens to programs which require dual high speed timers AND running multi-threaded.  There are very few natively multi-threaded applications which require dual high speed timers when running on a multi-core CPU.

Onboard sound chips require a significant amount of CPU attention.  The larger and more detailed the sound source is, the more CPU cycles are used up.  Pauses, stutters, slight hesitations in the video display could result, particularly when in the presence of many objects.

The problem is when the onboard sound chip does not get enough attention from the CPU, it can cause lots of dropped sounds as well as lockups of the sound system.

[emanonpettes]

Thanks for getting back to us Skuzzy.   Update...service pack three does include a newer version of the dual core hotfix.   When I went to install the KB896256 (which turns out was already installed) I got a notice saying the service pack has a newer version of this, and there is no need to install this fix.

I followed the link for the AMD patch that you gave in the "easier method of fixing this issue" (yes, I do have dual core) and installed the dual core Optimiser 1.1.4.  I hope that was the one needed, most of the rest said linux version and such.

I did not install the amdcpusetup file that was linked in part 1, or the "harder method of fixing this issue".  I currently am using the nforce4_amd_6.70 driver on my system, and truthfully don't know if installing the amdcpusetup file will overwrite that driver, conflict with it, etc.   

Am going to try playing now, and see what happens.   Yes, when it freezes, for the most part it looks like a sky at dusk as was mentioned earlier in the post.   Will try changing compatability if it continues.

The weird thing is this however...up until last week when I reformatted my hard drive, the game played smooth as silk, no issues what so ever.   After reformatting, I installed the same amd drivers, the hotfix, video drivers, etc that were running before.   Had service pack 3 installed, etc.   It's as close to what it was before, but suddenly the freeze issue pops up.

Thanks again however for the help so far.  Please don't hesitate to respond if you see a need.

[kamori]

Well I missed it. Hey I was trying to help. There was a bunch there.  However, did you read all the way through about the registry changes?  I had an AMD machine just like yours and got it to working okay. After the patches I also had to play with the registry a little.

I did go through registry also. TY for the sugestions.

KAM

[emanonpettes]

Knock on wood, it appears the dual core optimizer was the ticket.   Have not had to go to compatability, and was onf for over 4 hours w/o a hangup, including over an hour in the special event last night, where I figure if there is going to be an issue, it should/would have happened there.

Thanks Skuzzy, and the rest for links, suggestions, etc.

[CAP1]

When you put it into compatibility mode you force it to run on only one CPU. There is a bug in the AMD CPU's that the Aces High program hits.

i have almost exactly the same setup, except for the vid csard.....mine is a nvidia 8600gt with 256mb. i don't know what soundcard i have....how do i tell if it's onboard or not? mine works for a few seconds at a time.......drops from 60fps to 1fps. stays at each level for a few seconds at a time.


thanks....

[CAP1]

Well I missed it. Hey I was trying to help. There was a bunch there.  However, did you read all the way through about the registry changes?  I had an AMD machine just like yours and got it to working okay. After the patches I also had to play with the registry a little.

anything besides what skuzzy mentioned in the sticky? i can't d/l the windows patch, as it's for sp2, and i have sp3. i d/l'd both amd things though, and still have this slow down thing going on......

[CAP1]

sorry to hijack, but here's my dxdiag.

thanks for any/all help guys. it's going to be in multiple posts.......



System Information
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Time of this report: 2/18/2009, 02:12:19
       Machine name: USER-U66C1KGRWP
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: System Product Name
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/06/07 22:56:32 Ver: 08.00.12
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
          Page File: 436MB used, 2993MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8600 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_82431043&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 256.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7813 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 6057472 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 6132576 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4742-11CF-766D-48A200C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0402
        SubSys ID: 0x82431043
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

[CAP1]

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio output
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0662&SUBSYS_10438290&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5377 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 3/1/2007 04:27:00, 4484608 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: Realtek HD Audio Input
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5377 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 3/1/2007 04:27:00, 4484608 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
-----------
        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

[CAP1]

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: CH PRO THROTTLE USB
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0x00F1
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: CH 3-Axis 10-Button+POV USB Joystick
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x2
Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0x0504
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x03F1
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/29/2002 07:00:00, 4736 bytes
|
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0x00F1
| | Location: CH PRO THROTTLE USB
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03
| | Service: HidUsb
| | OEMData: 03 00 00 10 13 00 00 00
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:27, 10368 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:26, 36864 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:22, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 4/13/2008 19:11:54, 20992 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant game controller
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0x00F1
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_game
| | | OEMData: 03 00 00 10 13 00 00 00
| |
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0x00F2
| | Location: CH PRO PEDALS USB
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03
| | Service: HidUsb
| | OEMData: 01 00 00 10 00 00 00 00
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:27, 10368 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:26, 36864 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:22, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 4/13/2008 19:11:54, 20992 bytes
| |
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0x0504
| | Location: CH 3-Axis 10-Button+POV USB Joystick
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_03
| | Service: HidUsb
| | OEMData: 03 00 00 10 0A 00 00 00
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:27, 10368 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:26, 36864 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 4/13/2008 13:45:22, 24960 bytes
| | Driver: hid.dll, 4/13/2008 19:11:54, 20992 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant game controller
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0x0504
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_game
| | | OEMData: 03 00 00 10 0A 00 00 00

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 4/13/2008 14:18:00, 52480 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 19:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f03
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 4/13/2008 14:18:00, 52480 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 19:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 13:39:47, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Passed, Half Duplex: Passed, Mic: Passed
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

[CAP1]

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DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 294.4 GB
Total Space: 305.2 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD3200AAJS-00VWA0

      Drive: D:
      Model: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S202G
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:46, 62976 bytes

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System Devices
--------------
     Name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_82431043&REV_A1\4&52EDC45&0&0048
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 6132576 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nv4_disp.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 6057472 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 163908 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvapi.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 475136 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcuda.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 1368064 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 8826880 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcpl.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 13574144 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmctray.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 86016 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwddi.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 81920 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvnt4cpl.dll, 6.14.0010.12064 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 286720 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccs.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 229376 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdisps.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 3989504 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvdispsr.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 5799936 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgames.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 3444736 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvgamesr.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 3457024 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccss.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 188416 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmccssr.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 458752 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmobls.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 1257472 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvmoblsr.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 2854912 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvs.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 3764224 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvvitvsr.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 4149248 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwss.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 2686976 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvwssr.dll, 6.14.0011.7813 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 2981888 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvcpl.hlp, 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 177897 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\help\nvwcplen.hlp, 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 55444 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcod.dll, 1.03.0004.0028 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 122880 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvcodins.dll, 1.03.0004.0028 (English), 9/17/2008 23:55:00, 122880 bytes

     Name: NVIDIA MCP61 Serial ATA Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F6&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&40
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvata.sys, 5.10.2600.0692 (English), 10/17/2006 19:31:38, 105472 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\idecoi.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 10/17/2006 19:31:40, 363008 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\idecoiins.dll, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 10/17/2006 19:31:40, 363008 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVCOI.DLL, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 10/4/2006 19:35:54, 35840 bytes

     Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F5&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&0A
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F3&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&20
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:44, 68224 bytes

     Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F2&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&11
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 30208 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:11:54, 7168 bytes

     Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F1&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&10
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbohci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:35, 17152 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:36, 143872 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 19:12:08, 74240 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:45:37, 59520 bytes

     Name: Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F0&SUBSYS_82901043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&28
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 5.10.0001.5013 (English), 4/13/2008 11:36:05, 144384 bytes

     Name: NVIDIA Network Bus Enumerator
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03EF&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&38
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvnetbus.sys, 1.00.0003.6533 (English), 9/27/2006 02:04:16, 19968 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvnrm.sys, 1.00.0002.6533 (English), 9/27/2006 02:03:50, 1163008 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvsnpu.sys, 1.00.0002.6533 (English), 9/27/2006 02:03:30, 261632 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nvtcp.sys, 1.00.0003.6533 (English), 9/27/2006 02:04:02, 110592 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\bdco1.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 9/27/2006 02:02:04, 11264 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\bdco1ins.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 9/27/2006 02:02:04, 11264 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvconrm.dll, 1.00.0000.0035 (English), 9/11/2006 04:06:48, 35840 bytes

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03EC&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&30
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:29, 24960 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:40:30, 96512 bytes
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.01.2600.0000 (English), 8/29/2002 07:00:00, 3328 bytes

     Name: NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03EB&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&09
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard RAM Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03EA&SUBSYS_82341043&REV_A1\3&267A616A&0&00
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03E9&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&60
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:44, 68224 bytes

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03E9&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&58
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:44, 68224 bytes

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03E8&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&48
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:44, 68224 bytes

     Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03E0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2\3&267A616A&0&08
   Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/13/2008 13:36:41, 37248 bytes

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1103&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C3
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1102&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1101&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C1
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1100&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&C0
   Driver: n/a

[CAP1]

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DirectX Components
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   ddraw.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 279552 bytes
 ddrawex.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 27136 bytes
   dxapi.sys: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 10496 bytes
    d3d8.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 1179648 bytes
 d3d8thk.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 8192 bytes
    d3d9.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 1689088 bytes
   d3dim.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 436224 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:51 824320 bytes
 d3dramp.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 590336 bytes
   d3drm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 350208 bytes
  d3dxof.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 47616 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 34816 bytes
   dplay.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 33040 bytes
  dplayx.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 229888 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 23552 bytes
 dpwsock.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 42768 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 57344 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:17 29696 bytes
  dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:17 17920 bytes
   dpnet.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 375296 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:09:20 3072 bytes
 dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:09:19 3072 bytes
 dpvoice.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 212480 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:18 83456 bytes
  dpvvox.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 116736 bytes
  dpvacm.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 21504 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 35328 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 60928 bytes
dpserial.dll: 5.00.2134.0001 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 53520 bytes
  dinput.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 158720 bytes
 dinput8.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 181760 bytes
   dimap.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 44032 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 394240 bytes
     joy.cpl: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:41 68608 bytes
   gcdef.dll: 5.01.2600.0000 English Final Retail 8/29/2002 07:00:00 76800 bytes
     pid.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:12:02 35328 bytes
  dsound.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 367616 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 1293824 bytes
  dswave.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 19456 bytes
   dsdmo.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 181248 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 71680 bytes
  dmusic.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 104448 bytes
  dmband.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 28672 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 61440 bytes
   dmime.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 181248 bytes
dmloader.dll: 5.03.2600.5512 English Final Retail 4/13/2008 19:11:52 35840 bytes

[CAP1]

i think that's all that should be needed?



thanks guys!!


just finished doing the registry things mentioned in skuzzys post.....still getting that slow down thing./......as in.....


godgoodgoodgood............sl owslowslowslow.........goodgo odgoodgood........slowslowslo wslow

[The Fugitive]

What are your in game setting? Also, check the "net stat" in the game. In the top box, variance, it should be a flat line. If it is bouncing up and down like a heart monitor, your cpu might be getting taken over by another program which would cause the slow down. Even with a good system you shouldn't be running any other programs.

[CAP1]

What are your in game setting? Also, check the "net stat" in the game. In the top box, variance, it should be a flat line. If it is bouncing up and down like a heart monitor, your cpu might be getting taken over by another program which would cause the slow down. Even with a good system you shouldn't be running any other programs.

HHMM.......

the new machine has symantac in it. other than that, there's only 33 or so processes running(about the same as i had in the old machine).
 i also fofgot to mention, that i haven't gone online yet....this is in the offline mode. i haven't even gotten to the point of logging on. i think that this eliminates the internet connection, and showing through speakeasy dot com, doing a speed test to dallas, m d/l is in the 1500 range, u/l is in the mid 300 range(also about the same as the old machine)

 it doesn't do this slow down thing no matter how many windows i have open, or what i'm doing, but when it does it in ah, the entire puter slows down.

 i'm really confused, as it makes no sense, to have a machine twice as fast with twice as much ram with a faster hd, faster ram, better vid card, and poopy performance.

 the old machine was also an amd processor, just not a dual core.

thanks guys!