Advice on the HO...

[AKHog]

I was flying my D-hog yesterday, from a CV to a base that was pretty quite but had the same 3-4 pilots upping, all obviously pretty green.

One guy kept upping 109's, and on every single merge he would go for the HO. He did this for 3 fights in a row, each fight I could see he was going for the HO, I would fake the return HO and at the last second juke as to make him give up position and allow me to get an instant angles advantage. I shot him down 3 times in a row fairly quickly (one or 2 moves after merge).

Rather than flaming him, I sent him polite PM's over text. I said something along the lines of "when you go for the HO, you are giving up angles right away". He didn't reply, so I figured he was just ignoring me.

The next sortie I see the 109 co alt and go for the merge. Low and behold this 109 flies at me but at about D2.0 start a mellow turn, obviously avoiding the HO, then a split S right before we merge to try to get on my 6. No way can this be the same guy I think, but sure enough after a few more moves I shoot him down and it is the same guy!

I send him another PM saying "see how that fight lasted longer", and offered some advice for him to try to gain an E advantage after the merge by using a climbing move.

Next I see his 109, we merge and he passes close without firing (understands mutual respect on the HO now?), and goes for a gentle immelman (exactly what I had been doing in our past fights).  Now on our secondary merge (the first one we've had) we are on another HO at co E, and again he passes and tries to maneuver for angles. Holy crap I think to myself, I have an actual fight! This time our fight lasts a few minutes and goes to the deck, where I finally out turn him. I almost felt like giving him the kill to reward him, but I just couldn't do it so I put him out of his misery with a bunch of .50cals to the cockpit. 

Now here in just about 30 minutes this guy went from blindly HOing and then getting killed on every flight, to actually making a good first pass and offering a challenge. He never pm'd me back (maybe he didn't know how), but I could tell just by his flying and progression that he was having more fun. This has been one of my more fun moments in AH in recent memory. This guy went from being the typical HO dweeb that offered little or no challenge, to actually giving me a good fight and making me work hard. This is what AH is all about, progression, learning, and getting better at ACM.

<S> to the other pilot, if you are reading this I'm sure you know who you are. Great fights and keep it up, I can tell you will be an ACE soon! 

[uptown]

Yet another example as to why I think the AKs are class acts.....    AKHog

[Shuffler]

+1

[Saurdaukar]

<S> Great stuff.

They are still out there.  PM was a good move, based upon reception.  I'll try transitioning to that, myself.

[texastc316]

 

more of that can be done by all of us.

[bongaroo]

Good to hear!  Most times when I offer advice to those in obvious need they blow it off.

[waystin2]

Finally a story dealing with a controversial subject that was handled well.  A private PM and no 200 trashtalk.  Instead a more experienced pilot instructing another pilot in a respectful manner.  Many folks both veteran and new could learn from this behavior.

<Salute> AKHOG

[VansCrew1]

I was flying my D-hog yesterday, from a CV to a base that was pretty quite but had the same 3-4 pilots upping, all obviously pretty green.

One guy kept upping 109's, and on every single merge he would go for the HO. He did this for 3 fights in a row, each fight I could see he was going for the HO, I would fake the return HO and at the last second juke as to make him give up position and allow me to get an instant angles advantage. I shot him down 3 times in a row fairly quickly (one or 2 moves after merge).

Rather than flaming him, I sent him polite PM's over text. I said something along the lines of "when you go for the HO, you are giving up angles right away". He didn't reply, so I figured he was just ignoring me.

The next sortie I see the 109 co alt and go for the merge. Low and behold this 109 flies at me but at about D2.0 start a mellow turn, obviously avoiding the HO, then a split S right before we merge to try to get on my 6. No way can this be the same guy I think, but sure enough after a few more moves I shoot him down and it is the same guy!

I send him another PM saying "see how that fight lasted longer", and offered some advice for him to try to gain an E advantage after the merge by using a climbing move.

Next I see his 109, we merge and he passes close without firing (understands mutual respect on the HO now?), and goes for a gentle immelman (exactly what I had been doing in our past fights).  Now on our secondary merge (the first one we've had) we are on another HO at co E, and again he passes and tries to maneuver for angles. Holy crap I think to myself, I have an actual fight! This time our fight lasts a few minutes and goes to the deck, where I finally out turn him. I almost felt like giving him the kill to reward him, but I just couldn't do it so I put him out of his misery with a bunch of .50cals to the cockpit. 

Now here in just about 30 minutes this guy went from blindly HOing and then getting killed on every flight, to actually making a good first pass and offering a challenge. He never pm'd me back (maybe he didn't know how), but I could tell just by his flying and progression that he was having more fun. This has been one of my more fun moments in AH in recent memory. This guy went from being the typical HO dweeb that offered little or no challenge, to actually giving me a good fight and making me work hard. This is what AH is all about, progression, learning, and getting better at ACM.

<S> to the other pilot, if you are reading this I'm sure you know who you are. Great fights and keep it up, I can tell you will be an ACE soon! 

Maybe Stampf and RMrider should read this.
 

[hammer]

Isn't it a shame that someone can't post a nice, positive thread without someone else bringing their petty, childish squabble to it?

Regards,

Hammer

[Anaxogoras]

Great post AKHog.

[waystin2]

Isn't it a shame that someone can't post a nice, positive thread without someone else bringing their petty, childish squabble to it?

Regards,

Hammer

Hello Hammer,

Yes it is.  Of all the things that folks complain about that are supposedly ruining gameplay, being respectful was obviously a casualty a long time ago.

Have a great day,

Way

[Obie303]

Nicely done!  <S> to both pilots!

Obie

[Steve]

WTG Hog. I'm inspired and will try this same process next time I get Ho'd. (which will be next time I log on.)

[The Fugitive]

Now thats what Im talking about !!! WTG AKHog ! and a very big <SALUTE> to the other pilot who was willing to try and learn a few things.

[Scotch]

I find it's about a 30/70 split of those willing the receive such advice but it's always rewarding to see when some one does take it in to consideration.