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Re: Fw190
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2009, 06:14:56 PM »
I like picking/vulching with the A8 4x 20mms but that's about it...


WAIT...nevermind. :D

I've seriously gotta get down and learn the 190 series a bit better, I'm less than average especially with all this time off from AH, I'm just considering canceling my account.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2009, 06:26:29 PM »
I like picking/vulching with the A8 4x 20mms but that's about it...


WAIT...nevermind. :D

I've seriously gotta get down and learn the 190 series a bit better, I'm less than average especially with all this time off from AH, I'm just considering canceling my account.

she's under rated as a dogfighter truly spikes, Once you learn the basics, you'll notice a entirely different world opens up for the 190  :). I don't mind a good picking myself  :P.

& Mazz, thank's for the beautiful link sir.  :aok

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2009, 07:02:56 PM »
Yeah. I think I may try the A5 first since it's mainly a dogfighter.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2009, 07:53:34 PM »
Yeah. I think I may try the A5 first since it's mainly a dogfighter.

Don't discount the A8/D9 as dogfighters neither. They are very capable.  ;)

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2009, 08:43:08 PM »
Here are some pictures of a 190D-13 I took at the Flying Heritage Collection in Everett, WA.

The pictures u took must be the new paint job for this plane cause I found old pics of her in a older scheme. Some looks the same, but the spinner and the band by the tail is different.







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Re: Fw190
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »
That's when it was in the museum in Mesa AZ.  Was beautiful back then.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2009, 06:21:01 AM »
I started flying the 190 recently because it just doesnt feel right attacking allied bombers with allied planes, and Lancs/24s/17s are pretty much all we see. Having some luck with the A8 (for the massive cannon loadout - my gunnery isnt great) :aok
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2009, 07:14:17 AM »
I use the A5 in most cases.  Great all around plane.  I have to thank CHAPPY for re-introducing it to me!

I have started using the 190F model when "visiting" enemy bases to go after ACK runners.  The F model can usually absorb more hits.  It seems a necessary skill to acquire, an art, to kill those that ACK run!  :lol

Heck, I run to ACK too when my base is out-numbered 5 to 1.

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2009, 09:30:21 AM »
If one wishes to consider the Ta-152 a member of the "190" family, then it is far and away the best dog-fighter with its relatively competitive turn rate and E-retention under maneuvering.

If you don't, then it has to be the Dora. I've flown both the D9 and A5 quite a bit and the Dora's far greater E-building capacity and power in the vertical more than makes up for the A5's moderate turn radius advantage.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2009, 01:57:08 PM »
If one wishes to consider the Ta-152 a member of the "190" family, then it is far and away the best dog-fighter with its relatively competitive turn rate and E-retention under maneuvering.

If you don't, then it has to be the Dora. I've flown both the D9 and A5 quite a bit and the Dora's far greater E-building capacity and power in the vertical more than makes up for the A5's moderate turn radius advantage.

No doubt the Dora is a beast, but flat turn radius - which you really should not be relying on anyway at all, let alone in a 190 - is only one advantage that the A5 has.  It rolls faster as well; almost ridiculously so, which is huge in a multi-con engagement.  I'd say that is the biggest advantage it has over the Dora and, in a 1v1 situation, I would much rather have the A5.

In todays MA, though... tough call.  Titanic Tuesday means I put away the early war birds for the evening.

The 152, however, I will confess is even more of a monster if properly used.  Although a member of the 190 family, its application in the MA is totally different than the rest of its brethren, IMO.

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2009, 02:32:25 PM »
I don't understand nor can fly the Ta 152 at all. I've tried time and time ago but it doesn't feel like the A5 to me. And i end up dying alot of the time when i try Maneuvers that i can normally pull in the A5.  :(

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2009, 02:39:00 PM »
I don't understand nor can fly the Ta 152 at all. I've tried time and time ago but it doesn't feel like the A5 to me. And i end up dying alot of the time when i try Maneuvers that i can normally pull in the A5.  :(


Thats because its not an A5. ;)

The 152 really doesn't fly like anything else in the set.  To take full advantage of it, you really need to be standing on the rudders constantly.  That said, it holds E like no other.

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2009, 02:44:17 PM »
Don't discount the A8/D9 as dogfighters neither. They are very capable.  ;)
The A8 seems like a tank when I fly it. The D9 is decent but not a great turner.
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Re: Fw190
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2009, 03:10:54 PM »
I don't understand nor can fly the Ta 152 at all. I've tried time and time ago but it doesn't feel like the A5 to me. And i end up dying alot of the time when i try Maneuvers that i can normally pull in the A5.  :(


Just curious, what kind of maneuvers are you talking about?

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Re: Fw190
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2009, 04:01:36 PM »
The A8 seems like a tank when I fly it. The D9 is decent but not a great turner.

Spikes, look at my A8 vid in my first post. Think it's "Good P51 fight"
I had my A8 Very light, 100 Clean, 2x20mms only. She can dogfight, just have to fly it within your flight envelope.


Boozeman: My films in my first post are similar what i tried to do in a Ta with no luck. The thing is, when i fly the 152, i feel nervous, timid, no confidence. When i fly the A5 i feel as if nothing is going to shoot me down, and i fly aggressively to the limit because I know what my A5 can do and how she performs in certain situations.

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