Why have a "fighter" category?

[uptown]

1) Nothing really unless you are willing to do a lot of tower sitting from what I can see. The obvious primary goal would be to preserve a high kill per sortie count and hit percentage while also using very little time in fighter mode. I think the number one guy is probably using a chog from a CV to vultch a field after he has his roadies shoot the ack down. This is why you see him landing kills in that airplane. I know because I tried to dive on him one day and had HO after HO by other people in an attempt to protect him while he ran to the CV.

2) If you look attack is broken down in air stats and ground stats so each is calculated seperately except for gunnery which is always a hit or miss count. It looks like attack is used by the semi-honest scorers to down lone aircraft while defending airfields while if they were true scorers they would just announce a con over the airfield and remain in the tower because they dont want to mess up their score. I believe the number one guy uses attack mode to bomb and strafe tanks while avoiding the flaks and all the while having his roadies protect him from the air. I know because I tried to get at him at A1 on Trinity one day only to have HO after HO attempt by typhoons and 190s and Nikis while he ran to ten flaks.

3) See above.

The funny thing is when you go about it more 'honestly' (whatever you consider that to be) you have more fun but someone obviously thinks having his name posted every month is better then having fun.

Good post

[Urchin]

You are quite full of pomposity and disengenuousness. In one post you don't know who they are, in a previous post you call most of them timid. It is easy to see what you are.

Not really Steve.  I haven't been able to dredge up the desire to play for the past couple weeks, but just for fun I took to filming my sorties (the auto film feature really is a wonderful idea) and checking the names & scores of people who really impressed me as being awful. 

No real difference between a rank newb and several highly ranked "aces" in flying style or shooting ability - at least not against a plane that is airborne I suppose.

In fact, several times I was very surprised to find that one of several people making ineffectual bore n zoom passes were ranked in the top 50 for fighters.  That game has just fallen that far.

[B4Buster]

I use fighter about 80% of the time. I don't fly any different than I do in attack, I just use fighter to tell me how I'm doing. I use Attack when I'm upping from a capped base or something, because I don't carry ord, I don't have much use for Attack mode...so like I said I use it when i'm expecting to get vultched or picked on takeoff as to not "contaminate" (couldn't think of a good word) My actual fighter statistics...because I do like to watch my hit % and K/D to see how i'm doing.

[Dadsguns]

Not really Steve.  I haven't been able to dredge up the desire to play for the past couple weeks, but just for fun I took to filming my sorties (the auto film feature really is a wonderful idea) and checking the names & scores of people who really impressed me as being awful. 

No real difference between a rank newb and several highly ranked "aces" in flying style or shooting ability - at least not against a plane that is airborne I suppose.

In fact, several times I was very surprised to find that one of several people making ineffectual bore n zoom passes were ranked in the top 50 for fighters.  That game has just fallen that far.

   Exactly.

[Steve]

Not really Steve. 

Dude, I was talking to dadsguns. He's a numpty.

In one sentence he says the top 100 guys are timid, in the next he says he doesn't know who the top 100 guys are.
I wasn't commenting on the skill of the top  100 guys one way or the other.

[Dadsguns]

Steve, are you so juvenile to think that I care what YOU think......   you can piece meal anything you want, good luck.

[Steve]

Steve, are you so juvenile to think that I care what YOU think......   you can piece meal anything you want, good luck.

I didn't piecemeal anything.  Those are exact quotes from you in this thread.  I never gave pause, and still haven't, to consider whether you care about anything.

All I know is you belittle people to cover your own misgivings about your ability in the game. Who's the juvenile?

I'll never rank in the top 100 or even 1000, but of them, I'll bet most all of them would spank you silly. You've called them timid.  I say they'd eat you up.

[grizz441]

Take Fighter Category and split up ranks in groups as
Rank:
1-25
26-100
101-500
501-2000
2001-4000

There is a higher percentage of good pilots in each respective category as you go closer to the top.  So let me assign some random percentages for how many good sticks are in each group.

1-25 30%
26-100 20%
101-500 10%
501-2000 5%
2001-4000 <1%

Arbitrary percentages of course but it illustrates my point.  There are great pilots in every group but more and more bad pilots as rank goes down.

[Dadsguns]

I didn't piecemeal anything.  Those are exact quotes from you in this thread.  I never gave pause, and still haven't, to consider whether you care about anything.

All I know is you belittle people to cover your own misgivings about your ability in the game. Who's the juvenile?

I'll never rank in the top 100 or even 1000, but of them, I'll bet most all of them would spank you silly. You've called them timid.  I say they'd eat you up.

Steve, yes you did piecemeal a comment and tried to make it appear a contradiction.  Wrong.

You stated that I belittled people, who?

If most would spank me silly, then we wouldn't be having this conversation then would we.   

There is a higher percentage of good pilots in each respective category as you go closer to the top.  So let me assign some random percentages for how many good sticks are in each group.

1-25 30%
26-100 20%
101-500 10%
501-2000 5%
2001-4000 <1%

Arbitrary percentages of course but it illustrates my point.  There are great pilots in every group but more and more bad pilots as rank goes down.

Your probably close to being correct.  It would be interesting to see how accurate you are.  On second thoght, I bet it would look more like a hump scale, higher percentage towards the middle group and tapering at each end, where that middle ground is I would not know.

[Steve]

tried to make it appear a contradiction. 

Well clear it up for me. How are the following two complete sentences not a contradiction?

I dont even know who is the top 100 or even the top 1000.

That may explain why most of the top 100 can be easily killed and are so timid.

They are quoted verbatim.   If you don't know who the top 100 are, how could you know they are easy to kill and timid?  Clear this up for me.

[Dadsguns]

Well clear it up for me. How are the following two complete sentences not a contradiction?

They are quoted verbatim.  If you don't know who the top 100 are, how could you know they are easy to kill and timid?  Clear this up for me.

Let me sum this up for you as quickly as I can, I know we are only as fast as the slowest sailor here but your holding this discussion up......

One word for you,,,, Context. 

"I don't even know who is the top 100 or even the top 1000."

The top 100 will change daily, believe me I have no reason or will to follow that change.  The ones that I do run into after shooting them down, or chasing them for so long, or get shot down by their buds or them running through ack, or any other means of escape, yes I will look at who they are and usually that will be the only time I see their overall rank in the roster. 

For most you rarely find them alone, unless inside a horde, but when you catch them alone on them rare occasions, some will give you a great fight, most will not and they usually are no match, maybe because they cant fight alone, or they are used to having someone clear their six each time they get someone on them.  who knows.

"That may explain why most of the top 100 can be easily killed and are so timid."

[Steve]

Let me sum this up for you as quickly as I can, I know we are only as fast as the slowest sailor here but your holding this discussion up......

One word for you,,,, Context. 

"I don't even know who is the top 100 or even the top 1000."

The top 100 will change daily,
"That may explain why most of the top 100 can be easily killed and are so timid."

Wow. If you can't see the huge contradiction here,  I cannot help you.

How about this contradiction: 

The top 100 guys overall... not even top fighter ranks, the top guys overall average about 8 kills per hour. This is about double what you get per hour. So how is it that these timid and unskilled pilots get twice as many kills per hour as you? I mean you have made it clear you are better than them. You said most of them are easy kills so this means you are better. If you are better and more aggressive(they are timid and easy to kill) how is it they kill at twice the rate you do, O brave and  skilled warrior of the cartoon skies? Please share your wisdom with this humber pile-it.

[Dadsguns]

Wow. If you can't see the huge contradiction here,  I cannot help you.

How about this contradiction: 

The top 100 guys overall... not even top fighter ranks, the top guys overall average about 8 kills per hour. This is about double what you get per hour. So how is it that these timid and unskilled pilots get twice as many kills per hour as you? I mean you have made it clear you are better than them. You said most of them are easy kills so this means you are better. If you are better and more aggressive(they are timid and easy to kill) how is it they kill at twice the rate you do, O brave and  skilled warrior of the cartoon skies? Please share your wisdom with this humber pile-it.

 

Thats part of this discussion, they dont fly bombers, dont do GV's, dont goon, etc.  Hence 8 kills hour, most hide in a horde.  And yes, most including YOU, are easy kills as what we are saying here.   

I am not stuck on fighter PILE-IT alone.  But sure can be there when needed.  Now if I am shooting some of these guys down, I know they aint no good.... 

[Lusche]

Thats part of this discussion, they dont fly bombers, dont do GV's, dont goon, etc.  Hence 8 kills hour, most hide in a horde. 

GV'ing, flying buffs & goons has no influence on your kills/hour in fighters.
And btw, you can't get top 100 overall if you don't do those things...

[Steve]

Thats part of this discussion, they dont fly bombers, dont do GV's, dont goon, etc.  Hence 8 kills hour, most hide in a horde.  And yes, most including YOU, are easy kills as what we are saying here.   

I am not stuck on fighter PILE-IT alone.  But sure can be there when needed.  Now if I am shooting some of these guys down, I know they aint no good.... 

Uhh the kills per hour I was referring to is for your fighter mode only. This makes no consideration for gv's bombers or goons, just fighters.
And who is this "WE"  you are suddenly referring to? You are saying I'm an easy kill... I'm not anywhere near the top 100 so I'm not part of the equation. I'm ranked a lowly 2000+.