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Offline BnZs

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Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« on: March 28, 2009, 10:58:57 PM »
Because the "funky chicken dance", AKA gamey and unrealistic use of heavy neg-Gs and/or rapid oscillation in the pitch axis seems to have become a standard guns defense, I humbly suggest the full red-out be modified to result in blindness and loss of control for a few moments, as is currently the case with the full black-out. This will bring things more in line with reality, where 90% of ACM is done with positive Gs and where the physical pain and other problems associated with pushing neg Gs limits their use.

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« Last Edit: March 28, 2009, 11:06:39 PM by BnZs »
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2009, 11:02:23 PM »
Amen

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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2009, 11:03:40 PM »
Long, long overdue.
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 11:24:43 PM »
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 02:40:27 AM »
Do you (the royal you) actually push and pull hard enough g's to red/black out doing the "funky chicken dance" ( :rofl)?

If so, I've figured out why it doesn't seem to work when I do it.  When I twitch around, I don't red/black out.

Obviously I'm not doing it right.


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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 04:30:43 AM »
+1
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2009, 08:07:37 AM »
+1
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2009, 02:31:02 PM »
+1



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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 02:46:05 PM »
So...just how many +1's does a Wishlist suggestion have to get before it is implimented? :D

Do you (the royal you) actually push and pull hard enough g's to red/black out doing the "funky chicken dance" ( :rofl)?

If so, I've figured out why it doesn't seem to work when I do it.  When I twitch around, I don't red/black out.

Obviously I'm not doing it right.


wrongway

My proposed changed would be a fairly moderate measure, you'd still have to really abuse things to get stung by it.

Rolling or skidding about vigorously is not nearly as unrealistic as the rapid alteration between pushing the stick to the panel and pulling it back to the gut, nor does not displace the flight path as radically for the purposes of gun avoidance.
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 05:47:54 PM »
+1
Quote from: hitech on Today at 09:27:26 AM
What utter and compete BS, quite frankly I should kick you off this bbs for this post.

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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2009, 05:52:10 PM »
So...just how many +1's does a Wishlist suggestion have to get before it is implimented? :D


I believe only one +1 matters.  The guy has put his name on the product.  Otherwise, a wish is a wish.  It's not a popularity contest.



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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2009, 06:11:54 PM »
First of all I understand and agree with the OP.  Second, here's the Funky Chicken...
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2009, 08:04:08 PM »
+1...
The insane stick stirring's getting a bit old...
But then again... it just slows them down giving you more time to rip 'em to shreds. ;)
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2009, 11:28:58 PM »
I have been saving this until I had more films to add in but I got busy with another project...

This is the 'proof of concept' footage for an upcoming film that may not ever see the light of day... but it was a cool idea.

The Dance:

http://www.4shared.com/file/95728334/90fad44d/TheDance.html

Download and play full screen.  :aok
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Re: Make the Red-Out more punishing.
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2009, 12:04:01 AM »
Whoa...60meg .wmv. I'd like to take a look, but not gonna happen at 56K.  :D

I have been saving this until I had more films to add in but I got busy with another project...

This is the 'proof of concept' footage for an upcoming film that may not ever see the light of day... but it was a cool idea.

The Dance:

http://www.4shared.com/file/95728334/90fad44d/TheDance.html

Download and play full screen.  :aok
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