Defining bad game-play

[mechanic]

I respectfully disagree. If i rolled an IL2 from that field right then I would have killed them all within 10 deaths. Thats 5 minutes of suicidal HO shots to defend a base, score be damned. If you are not willing to put that small effort in then just move to another field without complaining about the game. IMO of course.

[mechanic]

the lag when i clicked post the first time till i gave in and tried clicking a second time can be seen in the posting times. why do i have this double post curse recently?

[Scotch]

It just happened to me too. It's the boards.

[4deck]

I have no idea, But 44 pages of CHIT, there must be something here in a thread

Back to listening to tool, the band (schism fits here) 

Meanwhile back at the bat cave, all your base belong to me. 

[Oldman731]

so you might say if you play smart and don't stay in the fight to the end no matter what than that's poor game play...? 

Yes, I think that's what some of us are saying.

- oldman

[BnZs]

I've done both, and it takes no more courage to fight like a rabid ground squirrel than it does to "fly to live". In fact, it may take more courage to do the latter...if you don't go into it with any expectation of survival, you're never disappointed.

[PFactorDave]

I've done both, and it takes no more courage to fight like a rabid ground squirrel than it does to "fly to live". In fact, it may take more courage to do the latter...if you don't go into it with any expectation of survival, you're never disappointed.

For me, flying to live (while rare for me, the living part anyway) is much more immersive.  In fact, I really enjoy FSO because it provides a very interesting adrenalin rush after flying in formation for a few sectors knowing that if I get killed I won't be able to re-up immediately.  It's far far more exciting and satisfying then anything that happens in the MA.  This next tour, I've decided to try and fly in the MA more like I am in the FSO, regardless of score or whatever.  I'm hoping to capture that FSO thrill as much as possible in the MA.

[moot]

BnZ - Courage (as much as there might be in a video game) is the ability to control fear in a dangerous or difficult situation.. Now, which is more dangerous and difficult.. Stacking the odds on your side and risking as little as possible, or finding perilous odds?  Which of these two is fighting like a rabid ground squirrel and which is flying to live?

[Guppy35]

As simple as it can be put:

No one really dies, planes are free.  Might as well fight!

[PFactorDave]

No one really dies, planes are free.  Might as well fight!

Agreed.  But...  Why ridicule those who want to try and relive what it is was like not to have endless lives? 

[moot]

When even within the constraints of the game, they fly nothing like someone who doesn't have endless lives would.  If you could be more specific...

[PFactorDave]

When even within the constraints of the game, they fly nothing like someone who doesn't have endless lives would.  If you could be more specific...

Wow...  Apparently you are perfectly comfortable providing "supreme" definitions...  I guess I should just give up any arguement, seeing how you are absolutely incapable of even the slightest consideration that your are wrong.

I guess we just need to establish the MooT rule set, then we can proceed from there, eh?

Whatever...

[grizz441]

Agreed.  But...  Why ridicule those who want to try and relive what it is was like not to have endless lives? 

It's silly because the majorities generally don't care if they die.  It's just not realistic to pretend you are Erich Hartmann when all your opponents have endless lives and intend to use them.  If everyone flew to not die putting forth zero risk(irony in itself), it would be a constant tug o war match to get the upper hand in fights.  Everyone would be flying at 30k in hordes playing cat and mouse with other hordes.  That's why.  

[BnZs]

BnZ - Courage (as much as there might be in a video game) is the ability to control fear in a dangerous or difficult situation.. Now, which is more dangerous and difficult.. Stacking the odds on your side and risking as little as possible, or finding perilous odds?  Which of these two is fighting like a rabid ground squirrel and which is flying to live?

But...there is no fear. Occasional chagrin and annoyance at my own incompetence is about as close as it gets.

I can easily go into a thick furball with a turny cannon bird and get several kills,  almost every time. Most can. Works well if you're interested in score too, 'cause it results in positive k/d+good k/t, k/s, and hit%. Trying to fly something maybe not so lethal, and maybe get a few kills, and maybe come out the other end and RTB alive, that put more factors into the equation.

[BnZs]

 If everyone flew to not die putting forth zero risk(irony in itself), it would be a constant tug o war match to get the upper hand in fights.  Everyone would be flying at 30k in hordes playing cat and mouse with other hordes.  That's why.  

No, because the call of the kill and aggression and testosterone more than balances out any concern for a cartoon death. It requires immense restraint to *not* go in fangs-out hair afire against every bandit.

EDIT: My attitude is not the one that led to a big bite of my own foot by calling someone who made a living landing jet fighters on a boat "timid"....that says something IMHO.

FURTHER EDIT: Are you guys really THAT pissed off when someone bugs out? Because, let me tell you, when someone does it to me I generally know why they were going to do it...I was about to shoot large chunks away from their airplane. Doesn't make me mad enough to throw my headset across the room or anything.