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Offline BnZs

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2009, 08:53:33 AM »
It doesn't unbalance gameplay (could, but doesn't) and whether something's clearly a noob's dream ezmode plane is corelated to but not cause for perking. 

Could, but doesn't? LOL, what the crap does this mean Moot?...hasn't a thing to do with what the airplane can actually do. The 190 A-5 could "unbalance" the numbers in the MA if everyone and his brother chose to fly it, but who would care if they did? We'd all rejoice in the number of targets. 

If we agree that it is the single plane that an inexperienced person is most likely to be able to get kills in, then that is a *perfect* reason for perking it.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2009, 08:55:49 AM »
I watch post after post, thread after thread come up and it always comes down to the spit 16 being a newb ride, a dweeb ride or more experienced players shouldn't fly it. I would like to know, who do you guys feel is eligible to fly the spit 16, I never hear anyone say the spit 16 should only be used by ____________?

The general consensus, since online flight sims began, is that the Spitfire is an easy-mode plane best suited for newer players.  The Spitfire 16 is simply the latest and greatest version available to us virtual pilots.  It does not penalize mistakes and holds at least one (usually two or three) advantage over every aircraft in the AH plane set.

The only thing that has changed in recent years is the emergence of cries from the aircraft's consistent users demanding acceptance.

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2009, 09:12:33 AM »
It would be unbalancing if everyone flew it to its strengths, in numbers like the chog was used before it was perked. The two are different animals, but that's the yardstick - whether it upsets the balance.  The 190A5 couldn't nearly have the same weight on gameplay's balance because it's not good enough. The XVI's effectively just not good enough in the hands of most of the players that use it. Hence the spit16 could but doesn't unbalance gameplay.  I don't think it's worth more than 2-3 perks anyway.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2009, 09:29:55 AM »
If you want to fly it then fly it. Nothing wrong with the plane other than having short legs. It must be one boring ride though. In the actual war it would be great to have such a plane but in a game it does not offer much IMHO. I prefer much more of a challenge in my gaming.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2009, 09:31:10 AM »
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2009, 09:34:09 AM »
Most that fly it are do not fly it well even though it is an easier bird to fly.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2009, 09:36:33 AM »
WTF is Panos going on about then?

all I'm saying is that since they were  -according to the development staff- some minor handling changes on the aircraft many people think that the aircraft FM has been remodeled. I also pointed out my personal feeling when i fly the "new" La. feels more heavy. And that is good as it concern my personal preferences. The official statement about this "remodelling" is below.

Version 2.12 Patch 1 Released March 19, 2008

Made some minor handling changes to the La-5 and La-7 flight modeling, performance was not changed.

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2009, 09:36:43 AM »
If you want to fly it then fly it. Nothing wrong with the plane other than having short legs.

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2009, 09:47:35 AM »
... and being more adept than most at dodging enemy fire.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2009, 10:25:25 AM »
... and leaving me with very unsatisfactory kills landed hence only clocking in a single spit16 sortie this year. oh and I don't pay any attention to anyone landing kills in a spit16.

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2009, 10:41:30 AM »
I watch post after post, thread after thread come up and it always comes down to the spit 16 being a newb ride, a dweeb ride or more experienced players shouldn't fly it. I would like to know, who do you guys feel is eligible to fly the spit 16, I never hear anyone say the spit 16 should only be used by ____________? I fly it, I'm not a newb or a dweeb, I fly it because it is one of the most versatile planes in the game. It has a good turn (not the best), it has good climb (again not the best), it has good acceleration (not the best) and it has good roll but again (not the best). And in the opinion of most players in the game the hog is the most versatile plane in the game, but you never hear anyone talk about that ride being unacceptable. I don't find it any easier to fly then any of the other spits , in fact I find that the spit 9,5 and seafire or probably a lot more forgiving and though the spit16 is faster it's not winning any races low, medium or high. So please, I'm asking, who do you guys feel should be flying this plane??   


I have never flown it and I'm not a noob or a dweeb :) and I dont think it would be fair to others if I did  :aok
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2009, 10:45:24 AM »
I hope to reach the heights of skill that some have, to actually have contempt towards an airframe because it was built too damn good.  Mind you I favor the 8 & 9 model Spits most of the time.  The 16 I usually save for desparate situations like being highly outnumbered.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2009, 10:58:43 AM »
I hope to reach the heights of skill that some have, to actually have contempt
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2009, 11:03:16 AM »
Oh and it has crap loads of ammo...

You know why I don't fly the spit?  Because everyone says its  a dweeb plane...   :lol

Plus when I fly a spit it seems like I am targeted first in a fight.  I do more evading than hunting in one.  I think that is the reason I am starting to do better in a Yak,  because no one goes out of their way to chase it.


 :rofl :rofl  Try flying a P38G! Geeze talk about being targeted 1st and by the most :aok
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2009, 11:04:53 AM »
Not the reason for contemptNot what's contemptible


I understand your view point Moot.  A single plane with this much of a community "stigma" attached to it is just eye opening to myself.  It just seems that the planes or vehicles that must be fought in a well thought out manner because of their capabilities are the ones that are assigned "noob" status.  For instance there are two planes that I treat with extra special care in my approach: the K-4 and the Spit 16.  It's probably for a lot of similar reasons that I behave this way towards them.  Of the two, I concur that the 16 does have at least one more advantage over the K-4 that makes it especially deadly.  You can dive it and bury the speedometer with little or no compression, where the K-4 has a compression threshold at a much lower speed.
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