CV vs Level Bombers

[Boxboy]

Can anyone give me an actual WWII statistic on the effectiveness of level bombers vs CV's??  I can't seem to recall a single CV lost to level bombers, yet in AH the SOP to take down the carrier is to launch a set of Lancs, B-17s, B-24's, etc etc.

[MORAY37]

This is one of the biggest pet peeves I have about AH2, that being the hyper-accurate BUFFS. But, realistically, if the wind was turned on in the MA, this would all go away.

In the fall of 1944, only seven per cent of all bombs dropped by the Eighth Air Force hit within 1,000ft of their aim point; even a fighter-bomber in a 40 degree dive releasing a bomb at 7,000 ft could have a circular error (CEP) of as much as 1,000 ft. It took 108 B-17 bombers, crewed by 1,080 airmen, dropping 648 bombs to guarantee a 96 per cent chance of getting just two hits inside a 400 by 500 ft area (a German power-generation plant.)

The ability of one set of bombers to hit a moving CV from 10,000 feet is wildly out of sync with reality.

[JunkyII]

Those bombers didnt calibrate back in the day, only the lead bomber really did anything. And again HTC has to make it so noobs can jump in and take off so they get more players

[Oleg]

As far as I know, no level bombers hit moving ships during WW2. Ever.

I think, HTC leave it that way, because otherwise CV would be very hard to kill w/o SB or cruiser.
Easy calibration is a shame though.

[oTRALFZo]

As far as I know, no level bombers hit moving ships during WW2. Ever.

I think, HTC leave it that way, because otherwise CV would be very hard to kill w/o SB or cruiser.
Easy calibration is a shame though.

+1. The manual calibration in FSO doesnt seem to disrupt most targets getting hit *yet the guys Ive seen bombing were older than dirt playing this game*, but then again, most everyone is used to the easy mode of calibration and there would be too much whinage if they changed it back

[uptown]

HELLO! This is just a game.

[RTGorkle]

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[frank3]

Level bombers (Lancasters) were send out to bomb the Tirpitz, she was sitting in port though 

[palef]

I think the first wave of aircraft to attack Force Z comprised level bombing G3M "Nell". They scored a single hit on the Repulse. Torpedo bombing Nells and Bettys did the major work on the Prince of Wales and the Repulse from that point on.

[danny37]

b25s were used alot againts ships and dams but at low alt(up to 3000ft) and droped either the HIGHBALL bombs which were round and skipped across the water,and regular ap bombs that they also skipped across the water,the highballs were not very effective so they switched to the reg, ap bombs that did pretty good.
personally i dont see how they were able to skip the reg, ap bombs on the water but somehow they did.

[Furball]

b25s were used alot againts ships and dams but at low alt(up to 3000ft) and droped either the HIGHBALL bombs which were round and skipped across the water,and regular ap bombs that they also skipped across the water,the highballs were not very effective so they switched to the reg, ap bombs that did pretty good.
personally i dont see how they were able to skip the reg, ap bombs on the water but somehow they did.

I don't think the Americans ever used Highball did they?  That was the version of the bouncing bomb developed for the Mosquito by the British - As far as i know it was never used operationally.

The standard bombs had time delay fuses on them so that they did not detonate on impact.

[thndregg]

I can hit CV's consistently in B26's (chosen for thier durability). 8K altitude puts these bombers just out of reach of the auto-ack, but still in effective range of the 5-inchers. Yesterday, I was able to sink a CV although the defensive fighter cap over it swarmed in a wiped my flight totally out.

[bj229r]

They sent waves of 17's against the 4 cv's at Midway.......nuthin

(note: in WW2, if you wanted to kill a building, you destroyed the city in which said building resided....politically incorrect nowadays)

[Ciaphas]

(note: in WW2, if you wanted to kill a building, you destroyed the city in which said building resided....politically incorrect nowadays)

But it got the job done! 

[Anaxogoras]

HELLO! This is just a game.

That's supposed to accurately simulate the abilities of WWII aircraft?

In order to counter the increased accuracy of level bombing, AH has the super auto-puffy ack, which I'm yet to see bring down a slow and large 4 engined bomber.

Manual calibration isn't going to make CVs safe from level bombing.  It would only force players to learn a new trick before they go back to the same old thing.  These things might help:

• Wind
• Randomness in how bombs fall through the wind (they don't fall in a perfect straight line)
• CV without human commander does auto-evasives when 4-engine bombers approach