Fighter Scoring Issue

[Chalenge]

No grizz but obviously you didnt read what I read about THAT data. The ranks and such dont mean much its the individual scores and their relative position that matter but no one got that from what I posted and no one went and did the work to find out exactly what the issue is. Im pretty sure things had already changed before I came into the picture.

[BaldEagl]

Individual rank is calculated by ranking each player in each statistical category (i.e. K/D, K/S, etc.), then adding those ranks together with the person with the lowest total ranking at 1, the next lowest at 2, etc.

Overall rank simply adds together the fighter, bomber, attack and vehicle ranks and then goes through the same process.

According to the OP this process was working for all other categories except fighter rank.  I would have a hard time believing that HT thought that fighter rank was sooo special that he would develop an entire new code and process to determine what it was, therefore I think this was nothing more than a bug.

[RTHolmes]

Individual rank is calculated by ranking each player in each statistical category (i.e. K/D, K/S, etc.), then adding those ranks together with the person with the lowest total ranking at 1, the next lowest at 2, etc.

squad#1 total: 508
squad#3 total: 123
squad#4 total: 752
squad#41 total: 409

squad ranking plainly doesnt work this way

[Chalenge]

No that is obviously NOT how it works for squad score but it still works that way for individuals.

[grizz441]

No grizz but obviously you didnt read what I read about THAT data.

No, I read it twice, and it didn't make any sense.  59!

[RELIC]

squad#1 total: 508
squad#3 total: 123
squad#4 total: 752
squad#41 total: 409

squad ranking plainly doesnt work this way

AND that's my point.  It isn't working this way (for squad Fighter rank only) and why not?  Baldeagl gets my point.

[BiPoLaR]

scores and rank are for people with no social life, just saying

[RELIC]

scores and rank are for people with no social life, just saying

Thanks for your insightful and off topic input.

[Chalenge]

I think the mistake you are making is adding the RANKs of each individual while I think HTC takes the raw data and recalculates the overall scores before calculating the RANK of the squad. So in effect the average score would be in error by some percentage depending upon how many members a squad has over and beyond the squad being compared to but whether thats the case or not adding the RANKs together would be a huge error by comparison.

[Lusche]

I think the mistake you are making is adding the RANKs of each individual while I think HTC takes the raw data and recalculates the overall scores before calculating the RANK of the squad.

And thats the result:



I took three squads as a sample. You can see the squads (not individual players) rankings per category, as computed by HTC.

I absolutely can't figure out why Rolling Thunders have a better fighter rank than Lentolaivue 34...

I guess we still have to ask Skuzzy

[BaldEagl]

I think the mistake you are making is adding the RANKs of each individual while I think HTC takes the raw data and recalculates the overall scores before calculating the RANK of the squad. So in effect the average score would be in error by some percentage depending upon how many members a squad has over and beyond the squad being compared to but whether thats the case or not adding the RANKs together would be a huge error by comparison.

That wasn't what I was saying.  I just used individuals to illustrate how it usually works.  See Luche's example above.

[Chalenge]

Yes in Lusches example Mykul777 flew a fighter sortie but had not landed or anything else at the time the scores were rastered and so the error occurs. I have noticed (and this may be the case here) that the server or host sometimes assigns a score to a category where the pilot in question has not actually done anything and that sort of problem also causes score issues. At the end of the month all of these things clear up as the scores are finallized.

[Lusche]

Yes in Lusches example Mykul777 flew a fighter sortie but had not landed or anything else at the time the scores were rastered and so the error occurs. I have noticed (and this may be the case here) that the server or host sometimes assigns a score to a category where the pilot in question has not actually done anything and that sort of problem also causes score issues. At the end of the month all of these things clear up as the scores are finallized.

I think this is not only speculative but wrong too.

Let's look at Tour 113. after the scores have been finalized it looks like this:



See how AArach AAngles have a worse ranking than LL34, WM's and WoT in every sub-category, yet they are ranked higher.

[Chalenge]

I still think the zero scores are whats causing the error but now that you pointed that out I would say there does appear to be a problem with the EOM results. I have seen for a long time how people can take #1 2 or 3 spots in different categories without ever having flown for that category but at the EOM things have always cleared up (previously).

[Lusche]

I still think the zero scores are whats causing the error but now that you pointed that out I would say there does appear to be a problem with the EOM results. I have seen for a long time how people can take #1 2 or 3 spots in different categories without ever having flown for that category but at the EOM things have always cleared up (previously).

Hmm..

While indeed one player of 367th had (2) fighter sorties without any score (which causes the rank problem and could explain this issue here too), none of the AA's had such a record.