dear htc

[Anaxogoras]

Ahhh, but therein lies the superiority of Il-2's damage model.  It is far, far easier to down a Ju-88 with a Hurricane MkI in that sim because you can start a fire with a good burst of BB fire; taking off the wing is not required.

How many clips of Luftwaffe gun cam footage have you seen where a B-17's wing came off from 20mm or even 30mm shells?  I haven't seen one. 

[Saxman]

The biggest issue I ever saw with the .50cal in IL-2 is that it took them FOR-E-VER to fix the ridiculous amount of nose slewing caused by firing wing-mounted .50s. It was like trying to fire the B-25's 75mm mounted out on the wings. Unsynchronized.

[Motherland]

How many clips of Luftwaffe gun cam footage have you seen where a B-17's wing came off from 20mm or even 30mm shells?  I haven't seen one. 

Although I've not seen it on film, it's not a rare thing to read about in recollections from Luftwaffe pilots.

[Ghosth]

Dunno, maybe HT likes pony's with .50's and is giving them the benefit of the doubt?

[Anaxogoras]

The biggest issue I ever saw with the .50cal in IL-2 is that it took them FOR-E-VER to fix the ridiculous amount of nose slewing caused by firing wing-mounted .50s. It was like trying to fire the B-25's 75mm mounted out on the wings. Unsynchronized.

Yeah, I never experienced that for myself, but I understand that the left wing bank of .50s would all fire at the same time, followed a split second later by the 3 right wing bank of .50s.  Neither the Yak or the Lavochkin has wing mounted guns, and so they were immune from the problem, which lead to all sorts of cries of conspiracy against American aircraft.  And to this day, they still go on and on about how the P-51 is undermodeled, kind of like here at AH.

[Saxman]

Yeah, I never experienced that for myself, but I understand that the left wing bank of .50s would all fire at the same time, followed a split second later by the 3 right wing bank of .50s.  Neither the Yak or the Lavochkin has wing mounted guns, and so they were immune from the problem, which lead to all sorts of cries of conspiracy against American aircraft.  And to this day, they still go on and on about how the P-51 is undermodeled, kind of like here at AH.

It wasn't just that the guns weren't synched properly, the recoil was ridiculously overmodelled. In the last patch even if you lose your entire right bank of guns it doesn't kick your nose around nearly as bad as it did before they fixed the recoil.

As for the conspiracy, I think the fact they tossed in late-war Luftwaffe and Russian monsters--many of which never even left the DRAWING BOARD much less saw combat--but refused to add the best American (if not ALL sides) fighter of the war (which DID see combat) contributes to that perception. At the very least it doesn't help dispell it.

[Enker]

Yeah, I never experienced that for myself, but I understand that the left wing bank of .50s would all fire at the same time, followed a split second later by the 3 right wing bank of .50s.  Neither the Yak or the Lavochkin has wing mounted guns, and so they were immune from the problem, which lead to all sorts of cries of conspiracy against American aircraft.  And to this day, they still go on and on about how the P-51 is undermodeled, kind of like here at AH.

They claim the P-51 is undermodeled, yet I have seen P-51s trying to turn with N1Ks and Ki-84s. This may be the reason for the outcries? Me thinketh so.