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Offline -lynx-

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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2000, 08:26:00 AM »
No handbrakes on WW2 fighters  

I wonder if it's hydrolic thing - not sure about P38 but in a Pony everything was hydrolical hence hanging gear doors when engine stopped - no pressure in the system to keep them up. When the engine started they would come up to open again to accept gear in flight  .

It's prolly a bug but if engine off kills your power assists off - it's pretty neat piece of modelling... Makes survivability of a wounded bird so much more shakey!

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funked

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2000, 10:27:00 AM »
Mino 110-120 mph is too hot to land a P-51.  Historical touchdown speed is about 90 mph.

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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2000, 02:28:00 PM »
In P-38, you have to lose some speed just before landing, because if you roll too fast, you won't stop until next county.
BUT, if you lose speed so that you touchdown at around 100mph, you brake alot quicker.
It seems too that if you glide just off the runway so that you lose 50mph more speed and then land, you get into stop alot sooner than if you land at 150mph instead of gliding off that 50mph..

Offline Minotaur

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2000, 12:53:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by funked:
Mino 110-120 mph is too hot to land a P-51.  Historical touchdown speed is about 90 mph.

CC and thanks Funked, but like I said I was dead stick.  I still should have stayed on the runway as I landed on the extreme end of it.  The brakes just seemed to have very little or no effect.

This non-braking so surprised me that I asked all my squad mates if there was something different with the brakes.  The difference in breaking ability was very noticeable since I last flew, which was a little over a week before.  This happened to be my first flight of the day and I had lost my radiator then the engine quit after attacking a BUFF.

With engine running, the plane slows very rapidly and brakes seem very effective.  With engine off via damage and not windmilling, roll out takes easily 2-3 times the length.  

Even at 50 mph tapping the brakes did not produce the normal stuttering effect.  Just really kind of feels like the brakes were not working at all.

The P-51 brakes using the keyboard are normally very sensitive below 50 mph.  If you are not careful you can go bellybutton over tea kettle before you know it.

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funked

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2000, 10:32:00 AM »
Roger Mino I see your point.

Also that 90 mph figure I'm quoting is power-on, full flaps, gear down.  With no power a higher figure is probably appropriate considering drag from flaps and gear.

IMHO the change in brake function with engine off is worthy of a bug report.

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2000, 10:45:00 AM »
Once you touch down, if you raise your flaps all the way it will help a lot.

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