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Offline Raptor

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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2009, 12:19:46 PM »
I like how most who have posted oversee the whole "hostages" aspect

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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2009, 12:23:19 PM »
I heard that pirate's fired at a Indian gunboat of the coast of India, the Indian gunboat blew them to pieces.
Guess what UN made a complaint to the Indian government.
How many pirates would there be after a year if we took the Indian stance - NONE

Maybe...But then...England hanged pirates for hundreds of years and it never stopped new pirates taking their place.
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2009, 12:51:29 PM »
I like how most who have posted oversee the whole "hostages" aspect

If you give ships letters of marque, that allows them to open fire on pirate vessles, well, rafts, and be armed. If you can defend yourself, kerplunk, no more hostages...
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2009, 12:52:41 PM »
I like how most who have posted oversee the whole "hostages" aspect
Officially my report would say the pirates were seen executing the hostages and in an attempt to save the hostages lives, the ship was sunk and all personnel were lost.

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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2009, 12:53:57 PM »
I like how most who have posted oversee the whole "hostages" aspect

actually, i didn't. they need to know that it will do them no good to take or keep hostages. this is the best, and quickest cure for hostage situations. it won't happen more than once or twice before they get the message.  :aok
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2009, 01:39:30 PM »
Perhaps we should sit down with the pirates in a peaceful and diplomatic manner and discuss ways that we might enrich their lives. We could get to the root issue for their anger and give them money in a kinder gentler fashion.

Then when they kill hostages we could just send them more money and ask them if everything is OK. Or perhaps would could offer them some counseling and help them work through their difficult issues in life.

Maybe they just need a timeout and some loving understanding.
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2009, 02:19:23 PM »
:lol, no you would not. U'd do some kind of evasive manoeuver, then once safe, u'll not be able to justify endangering ur crew for "retribution".

   I'd like to think my crew what be yelling "Smoke that MF!"

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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2009, 02:25:54 PM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/27/world/main5268713.shtml?tag=topnews

and we didn't fire back?

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They are surveying the situation obviously.   They found the "Mother Ship" around a lot of the mess there.   If the pirates were smart, they wouldn't have fired at all.    But now, they tipped their hand to the USN. 

I'd imagine a UK/US joint effort would be on the horizon for dealing with this ship.   Not everything in life is "think Playstation and blow watermelon up".
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2009, 02:30:14 PM »
Not everything in life is "think Playstation and blow watermelon up".

I prefer to live by the quote...
"Any problem can be overcome by the proper application of explosives."
Sometimes, we just need to remember what the rules of life really are: You only
need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2009, 02:36:36 PM »
I prefer to live by the quote...
"Any problem can be overcome by the proper application of explosives."

Joking is one thing.   105+ hostages is a lot for ANY Military Commander to deal with, let alone his units casualties.   Thank God, cooler heads are prevailing in this situation right now. 
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2009, 02:44:46 PM »
Joking is one thing.   105+ hostages is a lot for ANY Military Commander to deal with, let alone his units casualties.   Thank God, cooler heads are prevailing in this situation right now. 

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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2009, 03:00:43 PM »
+1

 :salute  Trig.   I was just sayin' is all.   No harm intended.    :rock
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2009, 03:17:31 PM »
Joking is one thing.   105+ hostages is a lot for ANY Military Commander to deal with, let alone his units casualties.   Thank God, cooler heads are prevailing in this situation right now. 
I wasn't joking bud. Calm politicians create needless casualties more often than decisive action, history has proven that. Give me 2 Navy seal teams and I guarantee that boat as well as 100 hostages come back.
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2009, 03:33:29 PM »
If you give ships letters of marque, that allows them to open fire on pirate vessles, well, rafts, and be armed. If you can defend yourself, kerplunk, no more hostages...

Letters of marque were not issued to merchants to fight pirates. They were given to pirates to raid an enemy nation. All ships may fight pirates if they so wish and there really are no international laws that prevent merchants from arming their ships. However many nations would not allow armed civilian ships to enter their ports. Solution: Armed merc escort ships.
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Re: pirates shoot at navy helicopter
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2009, 03:39:11 PM »
 Well. Sucks that you and two navy seal teams weren't on that helicopter or
in the area.

 which makes ya wonder. I mean WTF are they thinking???!!!  How could they
not be using the services of someone who could take in two teams in and bring
out the hostages?  IMO they should have had your cell # handy, advised you
of the  situation, had you grab your gear and gotten you and two teams out on
a flight to the precise spot pronto!

 
 I think quite a lot of people have watched too many Chuck Norris movies or
(nod to Masherbrum) are numb to real life from Playstationitis.