What to get: 2006 Z06 or 2006 911 S?

[CAP1]

ROFL Bigplay and Die Hard..

Pistons are still round and go in the round holes, etc.

Rebuilding a ferrari engine compared to any other engine would require the torque specs and knowledge of any 'tricks' the 'engineers' like to play (ie: 17 bolts to hold a 289 water pump on is a 'trick' ..finding them all is the 'trick') .. another example: to R&R a headgasket on a northstar V-8 the whole top end has to come off, injectors, manifold, heads, distributor .. it's insanely time consuming.

FYI: Formula cars are limited by the rules to a specific displacement ..so they run the *crap* out of them to get the most they can from them.
       If they had no rules about the size of the motor you would not see 19k motors in them. They are not cost effective.

-GE aka Frank

you ever done a cylinder head on a northstar?

i'd like to have a few minutes with that engineer. the last one i did, 3 of the headbolts pulled the threads out of the block.

 my favorite is "torque to yield" headbolts
 step 1) torque to 21 lb ft.
 step 2) torque to 29 lb ft
 step 3) tighten all bolts an additional 90 degrees
 step 4) loosen all bolts one at a time
 step 5) tighten all bolts to 19 lb ft
 step 6) tighten all bolts except #2 and #7 an additional 70 degrees
 step 7) tighten #2 and #7 an aditional 120 degrees.

 

it's easy to find all the bolts on a 289 waterpump. the trick is to clean all the caked up grease off first. 

they're just trying to change the discussion again, and the personal attacks from this morning, in my opinion, show that they have conceded victory to the rest of us this time. 

[Die Hard]

no, no it's not.

it's truthful, and honest.

"Arrogant" does not mean you're lying or being dishonest. I'm sure you believe all the... things you've posted.

Unfortunately.

[BigPlay]

ROFL Bigplay and Die Hard..

Pistons are still round and go in the round holes, etc.

Rebuilding a ferrari engine compared to any other engine would require the torque specs and knowledge of any 'tricks' the 'engineers' like to play (ie: 17 bolts to hold a 289 water pump on is a 'trick' ..finding them all is the 'trick') .. another example: to R&R a headgasket on a northstar V-8 the whole top end has to come off, injectors, manifold, heads, distributor .. it's insanely time consuming.

FYI: Formula cars are limited by the rules to a specific displacement ..so they run the *crap* out of them to get the most they can from them.
       If they had no rules about the size of the motor you would not see 19k motors in them. They are not cost effective.

-GE aka Frank

I fail to see your relation to my post in yours.

I am a custom residential remodeling contractor and have been for 35 years. I do some commercial building and new home building on a very limited basis , One reason is because it takes a completely different type of crew. I need highly trained RESIDENTIAL  carpenters and subcontractors with experience  working on high end homes not commercial buildings . I don't have commercial carpenters or subcontractors so I am not competitive in that area of construction and tend to not make the amount of profit that should be made by an exclusive commercial contractor. I also do not turn these jobs over as quickly as they would. That being said they can't enter my world either and when they do it's not pretty. We all are working with the same plans and specs so why shouldn't the product turn out the same in the end?

IMO it would be that way if a general engine rebuilder took a shot at rebuilding a Ferrari engine it would be less then perfect. I don't know but it would seem to me that specialized tools and equipment would be needed to achieve said rebuild. So just having specs and the other things you mentioned doesn't convince me that it's that simple otherwise cap with his godly mechanic abilities would be rebuilding Ferrari engines at $30,000 a pop or whatever ungodly amount it costs and each and everyday and making himself rich.

[CAP1]

"Arrogant" does not mean you're lying or being dishonest. I'm sure you believe all the... things you've posted.

Unfortunately.

i know what arrogant means. i was not, and am not being arrogant.

[CAP1]

I fail to see your relation to my post in yours.

I am a custom residential remodeling contractor and have been for 35 years. I do some commercial building and new home building on a very limited basis , One reason is because it takes a completely different type of crew. I need highly trained RESIDENTIAL  carpenters and subcontractors with experience  working on high end homes not commercial buildings . I don't have commercial carpenters or subcontractors so I am not competitive in that area of construction and tend to not make the amount of profit that should be made by an exclusive commercial contractor. I also do not turn these jobs over as quickly as they would. That being said they can't enter my world either and when they do it's not pretty. We all are working with the same plans and specs so why shouldn't the product turn out the same in the end?

IMO it would be that way if a general engine rebuilder took a shot at rebuilding a Ferrari engine it would be less then perfect. I don't know but it would seem to me that specialized tools and equipment would be needed to achieve said rebuild. So just having specs and the other things you mentioned doesn't convince me that it's that simple otherwise cap with his godly mechanic abilities would be rebuilding Ferrari engines at $30,000 a pop or whatever ungodly amount it costs and each and everyday and making himself rich.

 

[Masherbrum]

That's... *checks the rules one more time* very arrogant of you.

CAP is right.  

[CAP1]

He's right. 

that i'm arrogant?

[moot]

Less purse swinging, more auto symphonics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2NNwucQyw

[CAP1]

Less purse swinging, more auto symphonics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2NNwucQyw

shush you!!!!!

i paid for this gucci bag, and i'm gonna use it dammit!!!!
 

[BigPlay]

See Rule #4

[CAP1]

See Rule #4

i don't touch fast food.

i have to focus on my business, because in 35 years, i don;t intend to still be in business.....or even working for that matter.


clothes? i do the same as i always have. i wear what i'm comfortable in. price is irrelevent.

me?? try to fit in??? i'll tell ya a secret. i was one of the most unpopular kids in school. know why? because i NEVER tried to fit in. with anyone. never did, and never will. i don't need to. most do. i don't.

 i'm me, and that's all i need to be.

 in 10 years i'll be retired, living comfortably somewhere besides the prnj, waking in the morning to go flying in my own airplane.

if i need to still be in business in 30 years, i hope someone will look over what i did wrong that i am.

and i do feel the same. i came from nothing, and am making something out of it. i wuoldn't trade the life i've had for anything in the world.....especially not with someone that feels the need to "fit in"

 i should also add, that although my family had nothing "physical" to give me, i wouldn't trade them for any other family in the world either.

 see....they gave me something much much more important. they gave me "me"

[edog1977]

Less purse swinging, more auto symphonics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw2NNwucQyw

The Ferrari F50 GT1 clips were great.  That link, on the other hand, was a big letdown.  That music was awful.

[BigPlay]

See Rule #4

What..... that was bad?

[jdbecks]

If you know how to rebuild one engine, you can pretty much rebuild them all, all you need to know is the torelerences/ torque settings, they are all pretty much the same, yes a ferrari tech will do it quicker, deos not mean he will do it any better than me or cap1 would. I've rebuilt a few engines, and you very rarely need all the "special tools" they list. An Engine is an engine, once you know how to rebuild one..they are all the same.. I find it pretty simple and not very mentaly stimulating to be honest, however...I do love it when she kicks back to life.

unfortuantly, with all tradesman, you get the cowboys, the guys to cut corners to get it done quicker...which then will lead to a bad reputation...but you should hear some of the horror stories from the main dealers...

[CAP1]

If you know how to rebuild one engine, you can pretty much rebuild them all, all you need to know is the torelerences/ torque settings, they are all pretty much the same, yes a ferrari tech will do it quicker, deos not mean he will do it any better than me or cap1 would. I've rebuilt a few engines, and you very rarely need all the "special tools" they list. An Engine is an engine, once you know how to rebuild one..they are all the same.. I find it pretty simple and not very mentaly stimulating to be honest, however...I do love it when she kicks back to life.

unfortuantly, with all tradesman, you get the cowboys, the guys to cut corners to get it done quicker...which then will lead to a bad reputation...but you should hear some of the horror stories from the main dealers...

there's only one dealer around here that i'll recommend people to....that's winner ford. i deal with their parts dept on a regular basis. good people. they'll bend over backwards for ya.

 through civil air patrol, i've dealt with their service dept. SUPER NICE service managers. very knowledgable. i check over their work whenever i have to take one of our vans there(the newer ones are still under warranty), and have yet to find anything i can or want to complain about in their work.
 i've dealt with other ford dealers up north....larson ford, miller ford in particular. they've made the blacklist. nothing from civil air patrol will ever go to them as long as i'm the LGT.

 but yea.......most dealers have one or two techs, then a bunch of mechanics that just don't seem to care about their work. that's the ones i hear the horror stories from.