Discution aboout 190s with 4-6 20mm

[oakranger]

Last night, a few of us got into a discussion on 190As that where equipped with 4 or even 6 20mm guns.  Here is what i have found that should answer the question.  WOW, 150 diffrent variation in the 190s.

http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/variants.htm


Look at the FW 190 A-5/U7. 

[BnZs]

Last night, a few of us got into a discussion on 190As that where equipped with 4 or even 6 20mm guns.  Here is what i have found that should answer the question.  WOW, 150 diffrent variation in the 190s.

http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/variants.htm


Look at the FW 190 A-5/U7. 

Yes, it would be very nice to have an A6 with 4 MG 151s for LW. Hopefully one that isn't 12 mph too slow either.

[oakranger]

it really never occue to me on this, but with the 190s we have on AH, why did Hitech pick them?

[Krusty]

This isn't about outboard MG151/20s on an A-6... this is about the twin MG151/20 gunpods that slung underneath the wings so that when counting the number of 20mm cannons on the plane, the total is 6 (6 being the number counted to).

Heavy, draggy, but by cod that's a lotta firepower! Intended for bomber use or ground strafing, they mostly were used in bomber attack from what I hear.

JG11 used them. Most other JG didn't. Probably exceptions here and there, and by no means a very wide-spread "kit" to put onto a plane...

but still would be fun to play with!!

We have the 6-gun bf110G4 option, we ought to have the 6-gun fw 190 option!





P.S. This skin actually flew with them in combat. I'd love to see it with the packs underneath 'er wings!




Edit: Yeah, I know. I'm in the process of redoing that skin, FYI. It needs redoing.

[moot]

cough 410 cough

[oakranger]

Me 410 or 190 with the six gun?  hummmmm...................... ..........


That site i posted is really something. 

[Noir]

give us those 12mph back ! and a real early 190. I don't really care bout the guns tho, 2x30mm and 2x20mm is about anything you need

[Stampf]

What Krusty refers to:

Fw 190 A-5/U12 of  2./JG 11 with WB 151's.



hmmmm, pics not loading from JG11.

Try it this way:

[Anaxogoras]

Just imagine that plane gunning down the ordnance bunkers and radar.

[captain1ma]

funny, the A5 seems to gun down ords and radar just fine! and its fast too!

[Saurdaukar]

funny, the A5 seems to gun down ords and radar just fine! and its fast too!

The A5 accelerates well at low altitude, but I wouldnt call it "fast."  Especially considering that the in-game version is slower than its real-life version by a margin significant enough to affect potency against 1944+ A/C.


Oak - I cant speak for HTC, but I believe that specific varients were chosen to best represent that aircraft during a specific time period - to fill in the time gaps, so to speak.

The 109 set is the best example.  The E-4 was the most significant Emil.  The F-4 was the most significant Frederick, the G-6 was the most significant Gustav (and probably the most significant 109, period), the G-2 and G-14 represent the early and late Gustav line, on either side of the G-6, and the K4 represents the last effort.

All your bases are covered.  I would guess that the issue with adding another 190 Anton is that the A5 fills the early-war gap well enough, already, for no extra work. 

Earlier versions would probably end up as scenario-only hanger-queens and later A's would likely not show an appreciable performance differential when compared to the A5.  In both cases, however, the amount of work required to take the aircraft from concept to your monitor is huge - and for what gain?

That said... bring the 190A-9 to Aces High! 

(And give me my 12MPH back).

[Noir]

yeah 12Mph ! lol

[BnZs]

The A5 accelerates well at low altitude, but I wouldnt call it "fast."  Especially considering that the in-game version is slower than its real-life version by a margin significant enough to affect potency against 1944+ A/C.

The A5 actually has no significant acceleration advantage over the P-51D in the game.

Earlier versions would probably end up as scenario-only hanger-queens and later A's would likely not show an appreciable performance differential when compared to the A5.  In both cases, however, the amount of work required to take the aircraft from concept to your monitor is huge - and for what gain?

That said... bring the 190A-9 to Aces High! 

(And give me my 12MPH back).

The 190 A-5's top speed does seem to conform more the curves you see for the A-3 or A-4...some degree of "hybridization" might explain the slow OTD speed.

 I disagree about with the rest. The Antons were very important and deadly planes not just in the EW but 'till the very end, and adding versions that were more competitive in MW and LW would be at least as worthwhile. Probably more worthwhile than the addition of some planes we already have was, such as the C-Hog, Ta-152, or 163.

[Anaxogoras]

yeah 12Mph ! lol

That's a big enough margin to make the difference between outrunning a horde of XVIs or getting ganged to death.

[Krusty]

So, just out of curiousity, where does this supposed 12mph missing number come from?