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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #105 on: September 30, 2009, 10:27:41 AM »
I can attest that Steve is hardly all talk.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #106 on: September 30, 2009, 11:18:09 AM »
I will give the first person who can provide a film showing that maneuver done in a P51 in AH or a real film of a WWII aircraft doing that maneuver the same gift.

I.E. the move of flying level nose to nose on an opponent, then rotate around the Yaw axis for a shot. Hmm maybe if you had your tail shot off at just the right moment.

This move can not be done in AH or in real life. The closest move to it is a Lambshavok but those tend to be more a pitch over/tumble.

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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #107 on: September 30, 2009, 11:25:59 AM »

I.E. the move of flying level nose to nose on an opponent, then rotate around the Yaw axis for a shot.
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I've never seen it come out level... the nose always drops(quite a bit) when the plane flips around.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #108 on: September 30, 2009, 11:40:36 AM »
You try that move in front of me and I'll pixelate ya  :D

I don't think it works unless the  bad guy is close aboard your 6 and if you were that close on my 6, I'd already be dead.    :D
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #109 on: September 30, 2009, 12:05:40 PM »
Now I understand why there was no film, cough.

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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #110 on: September 30, 2009, 12:08:46 PM »
Now I understand why there was no film, cough.

 ;) owned.

Dale is referring to the first/exact move. I said there is a similar move.  I also said earlier in the thread:  It basically leaves you hanging in the air with your nose down... takes a good 4 or 5 full secs to build E again.

Dale also said:

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then rotate around the Yaw axis for a shot

I never said anything about gettting a shot opportunity.

Try to actually understand what you are attempting to read.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #111 on: September 30, 2009, 12:22:12 PM »
Dale is referring to the first/exact move. I said there is a similar move.  I also said earlier in the thread:  It basically leaves you hanging in the air with your nose down... takes a good 4 or 5 full secs to build E again.

Try to actually understand what you are attempting to read.


It's called sarcasm. If you followed your own advice maybe you would understand.

Don't take yourself so seriously  :aok
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #112 on: September 30, 2009, 12:29:40 PM »
It's called sarcasm. If you followed your own advice maybe you would understand.

Don't take yourself so seriously  :aok

Well we haven't been having a friendly exchange, you and I.  I just figured it was another attack. If I missed the humor, I apologize.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #113 on: September 30, 2009, 12:30:11 PM »
double post, sorry.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #114 on: September 30, 2009, 12:30:24 PM »
I will give the first person who can provide a film showing that maneuver done in a P51 in AH or a real film of a WWII aircraft doing that maneuver the same gift.

I.E. the move of flying level nose to nose on an opponent, then rotate around the Yaw axis for a shot. Hmm maybe if you had your tail shot off at just the right moment.

This move can not be done in AH or in real life. The closest move to it is a Lambshavok but those tend to be more a pitch over/tumble.

HiTech

Hitech means the 'Lomcevak' of course (just in case you never heard of it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRhUo_EeZDk

Not a really good example of a Lomcevak but close enough. Even if you did it perfectly it would either set you up for a collision or leave you hanging out like a 'cherry' and we all know how that ends.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #115 on: September 30, 2009, 12:43:34 PM »
Well we haven't been having a freindly exchange you and I.  I just figured it was another attack. If I missed the humor, I apologize.

No need, sarcasm or not.  ;)

See you in the MA, eventually.  :confused:
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #116 on: September 30, 2009, 12:45:38 PM »
Now I understand why there was no film, cough.

 ;) owned.

We didn't need HT to tell us that the maneuver in Dogfights is CGI bullpoop.

There's lots of funky maneuvers that you can perform in the AH P-51D, and we've seen some pretty astounding films, but none of them replicate what is depicted in Dogfights.  I said the same thing many months ago in a similar thread.
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #117 on: September 30, 2009, 12:51:55 PM »
However... the snaproll I suggested is a good one to learn if you can master it (big if). You can use it to slow down very quickly and in a number of situations that can be very handy... and I DO NOT mean slow down to no speed at all (bad idea).
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #118 on: September 30, 2009, 01:10:38 PM »
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Re: Question about a P-51 maneuver
« Reply #119 on: September 30, 2009, 01:13:44 PM »
I'm wondering why Dogfights would simulate such a move. Did someone say he did it?

Shuf, where you been? I haven't been shot down by you lately   :D.
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