New Lag and Frame Rate problem

[DCCBOSS]

Hey Skuzzy I did notice the lag has gone away, but the my frame rates and change do not make sense, I can be in the tower and have a frame rate of 39, up a plane at the same base and have a frame rate of 59. I was trying to post my dxdiag but when using photoshop or Imageshack my complete dxdiag cannot be shown. Is there a different way of getting the complete length posted. 

[Nwbie]

Start -> Run -> DxDiag

Click the 'Save All Information' button


saves as a text file - copy maybe the top half of it and paste into a post

[guncrasher]

I think the lost frames and lags that we've been having the past week its just due to the maps having a lot of tree detail and not to the last update.  My frames shot up to no less than 50 and  mostly 59 once the "pacific" maps are out in this rotation.  at least that's how it seems on my computer.

semp

[DCCBOSS]

Skuzzy can you take a look at this and tell me if I need to improve something to get my frame rates more stable.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/28/2009, 10:08:03
       Machine name: DENNIS-91C09D3A
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: System Product Name
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/08/07 13:56:42 Ver: 08.00.12
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 2048MB RAM
          Page File: 427MB used, 4839MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_20B2107D&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 320.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7519 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 5/16/2008 14:01:00, 6108928 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 5/16/2008 14:01:00, 6557408 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42D3-11CF-926E-B90003C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0193
        SubSys ID: 0x20B2107D
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Creative Sound Blaster PCI
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1274&DEV_5000&SUBSYS_4C4C4942&REV_01
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ES1370MP.sys
         Driver Version: 5.01.2501.0000 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 8/17/2001 13:19:38, 37120 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Standard
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 11025, 44100
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Creative Sound Blaster PCI
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ES1370MP.sys
         Driver Version: 5.01.2501.0000 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 8/17/2001 13:19:38, 37120 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
          
    


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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 14:45:37, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 7/27/2007 08:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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+ Creative AudioPCI (ES1370), SB PCI 64/128 (WDM)
| Location: PCI bus 0, device 10, function 0
| Matching Device ID: pci\ven_1274&dev_5000
| Service: ES1370
| Driver: ksuser.dll, 4/13/2008 20:11:56, 4096 bytes
| Driver: ksproxy.ax, 4/13/2008 20:12:42, 129536 bytes
| Driver: ks.sys, 4/13/2008 15:16:36, 141056 bytes
| Driver: drmk.sys, 4/13/2008 14:45:14, 60160 bytes
| Driver: portcls.sys, 4/13/2008 15:19:41, 146048 bytes
| Driver: stream.sys, 4/13/2008 14:45:15, 49408 bytes
| Driver: wdmaud.drv, 4/13/2008 20:12:45, 23552 bytes
| Driver: es1370mp.sys, 8/17/2001 13:19:38, 37120 bytes
|
+-+ Game Port for Creative
| | Matching Device ID: *ctl7001
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 4/13/2008 14:45:29, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Microsoft USB Digital Media Keyboard (IntelliType Pro)
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00B4
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_045e&pid_00b4&mi_00
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/13/2008 14:39:48, 14592 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 14:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 20:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 14:39:47, 24576 bytes
|
+ Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Optical (IntelliPoint)
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0039
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_045e&pid_0039
| Upper Filters: Point32
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 13:48:00, 12160 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 14:39:47, 23040 bytes
| Driver: point32.sys, 11/8/2006 03:02:34, 21760 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/13/2008 20:13:20, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/13/2008 14:39:47, 23040 bytes

[Skuzzy]

What do you have running on that computer that requires so much swap/page file space?  It is 4 times higher than it should be.

[DCCBOSS]

Skuzzy do I need to correct it?

[Skuzzy]

The page file usage.  You can see it in real time in the Windows Task Manager under Performance (PF Usage).  At idle, your computer should only be using about 140MB of page file space, not 400+MB.

[DCCBOSS]

I'm running Riva tuner, Speed fan, I have norton antivirus and lexmark printer, I also have gameboost program which shuts down programs I select, spybot and the rest are pretty much standard programs. 

[Dustoff2]

Boss, try a restart of your system first. As I read this thread, I looked at mine in task manager and it too was over 400+. But I leave my pc in standby for days on end without ever rebooting it. So I rebooted and it was down to about 280 page file  in task manager by just reboot. I since went into msconfig and turned off some things at startup like quicktime, office3.0, asus cpu manager, ect....and got it down to 182 so far.

I'm guessing that something sort of like what win98SE use to do when you open and close a program, it doesn't completely release all the resources that program used. So therefor your page file grows. I'm just speculating. So start with a reboot and then go from there and see what skuzzy recommends to get that PF down.

Just as a reference, my pc up stair that I use strictly for gaming has a page file of 166. I don't have anything on it but AH and ventrillo.