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I need to save this piece of history!
« on: October 07, 2009, 03:58:00 PM »
   Today a work buddy of mine brought in a newspaper his 91 year old grandfather just gave him.  The paper:  The Honolulu Gazette.  The date: December 7th, 1941.  That's right, the local paper from the day of the attack.  It's slightly yellowed, but not much.  No tears.  It was an absolutely amazing read.  So much detail of the attacks they never talk about, like individual civilians killed & how they died.  Awesome awesome awesome descriptions of the attack (with pictures I've never seen anywhere).    It talks how there were "4 waves" in the attack (not true) and reports of "Japanese parachute forces that were dealt with" (also not true).  And other fog of war accounts.  I was mesmerized looking through it.

   I'm sorry to say that my buddy is from Generation Crap and has no idea what he has.  Except for the slight yellowing, it's mint.  I made the mistake of telling him it was probably worth a lot of money.  I could see the dollar signs in his eyes.  The idiot is keeping it folded up in a plastic grocery bag at the moment, not protected from light or air at all.  That breaks my heart.  It should be in a museum.  Appealing to his patriotism as an American is a no-go (like I said, Generation Crap).  He just wants to make some quick money.  Either that or his heathen kids will get ahold of it and ruin it.  If only I hadn't let him know its worth.  He doesn't and won't understand the real worth is historical, not monetary.  I'm afraid what's going to happen to this piece of history, as I know him and his sons well and they have no appreciation of what they have.  I'm gonna do my damnedest to barter with him for it (he'll want more money than I have now that he knows its valuable).  It is my duty as an American to save this before it's destroyed or ruined forever.  If somehow, someway I can get it off him, I know what to do to save it from the elements.  He could care less about that.  If by some miracle I do get it, I will be contacting the Smithsonian and other museums to donate it.  I don't want any damn money, I want to save it for our country!  Tomorrow I will take my camera in and have him bring it back in.  I will take pictures and post them here, so that you all can see what a treasure it really is.

Wish me luck. :salute
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 04:01:06 PM »
Amazing and sad at the same time.... good luck!
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 04:01:27 PM »
How old is this smuck?

Thats an awesome find I hope you can work something out for it and put it where it belongs.....


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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 04:02:16 PM »
25.  I could always just kill him and take it.
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 04:04:36 PM »
Does he really understand the importance?  Educate him, maybe he just does not fathom it all?  Who knows, that generation for the most part cant see beyond their twitter screen....  :rolleyes:


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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 04:08:20 PM »
Generation Crap

Come on now.  Indeed I dislike many people my age, but this is a bit unnecessary.  Good luck on getting it back though!  Keep us posted...but maybe without demeaning those of us who don't suck at life.   :rock

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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 04:12:17 PM »
Lost cause with him.  I've known him for years.  He's only interested in making money off it, yet I KNOW he will never get around to doing anything with it, just stuffed somewhere waiting to be ruined forever.  Trust me, I will give it my all.  You can tell it hasn't been exposed to air until now.  Now it's just in a friggin grocery bag.  It's full of accounts from witnesses such as them seeing "destroyers headed out the harbor, black smoke rising from their stacks, throwing up black puffs of anti-aircraft fire" and "seeing the red meatball on the wings of the planes as they dropped bombed on Honolulu"  and how "an unidentified Chinaman was killed when a bomb exploded in front of Sally's Flowershop, shattering all the windows".  It's just amazing.
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 04:14:49 PM »
Come on now.  Indeed I dislike many people my age, but this is a bit unnecessary.  Good luck on getting it back though!  Keep us posted...but maybe without demeaning those of us who don't suck at life.   :rock

Apologies.  Of course not all are like that, but the people his age at my shop are.  Not one of them could give a hoot about it.  One even recommended using it "as a big rolling paper"  so they could get high after work.  That's the type I'm surrounded by there.
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 04:27:16 PM »
They aren't worth a terribly large amount of money.  Offer him $50 and see if he takes it. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 04:50:26 PM »
I have several original copies, my grandmother was supposed to have breakfast at the harbor with a nurse friend that morning. Fortunately, she didn't make it...

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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 04:50:31 PM »
8 page extra for the Honolulu Star Bulletin - December 7 1941:

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~keller/news/work/index.html
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2009, 05:03:02 PM »
Heya Ranger.  if you can get a price for it, I'm in for $20 bucks just to rescue it.  I dont ever need to see it, just send me the addy and the check will be otw.

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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2009, 05:16:30 PM »
Ranger ,
The Best thing to do is offer to at least put in in a jacket or have the pages preserved for him. tell himn he can get more for it !
Th ething isnt what can he get buthow can we preserve it for the guy who buys it and shows it to generations to come
  A print shop can at least wrap the paper to stop any more degregation .
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2009, 08:24:32 PM »
Roger that.  Will do. :salute
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Re: I need to save this piece of history!
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2009, 08:34:22 PM »
offer to put it on ebay for him, then buy it yourself. 

probably won't go for that much.