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Offline Getback

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Windows 7 vs XP
« on: October 23, 2009, 11:38:49 AM »
Any gain for AH using Windows 7 over XP?

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 11:43:00 AM »
I have not run 7 but if it is like Vista there are tons of added security.

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 11:55:15 AM »
speaking only for myself........

I have seen increase in 5 fps  on my monitor resolution.  using the DELL driver for Win7  from 70hz to 75 hz  using 1280x1024 screen res ( VSYNC ON )

all sliders maxed out.........  no hiccups...........  only nusiance you might say is the way DirectX? ( DirectSound) is not used the same way as it is in WindowsXP, so most everyone I have talked to had to do some minor tweaking on their sound output on VOX..... seriously this is the only thing I have heard in any negative way toward Windows 7.....


I have both Windows XP Pro SP3 32bit    and Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit loaded on a dual boot setup........ and Windows 7 literally kicks WinXP's behine........ YMMV
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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 11:55:52 AM »
Gain? Not really, not that i've seen.

Yes 7 closes some security loopholes.
It tends to hide more things compared to xpl

It has a lot more DRM controls than XP does.

Unlike Vista it has no real hardware disadvantage.
But that really isn't a reason to switch IMO.

However if your interested in getting onboard you might consider a dual boot.
Pretty easy to setup if you have a spare partition.

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 03:17:29 PM »
On my box Win7 x64 gave 30% lower framerates than XP.

But this does not tell the full truth because on win7 all sound stuttering is gone when shooting and the framerates are more stable, they don't variate as much as in XP.

All in all I'm very pleased with win7 performance. You should tweak it a little however, disable ipv6 and all optimizing features from networking. Cures warping and especially wireless connection problems.
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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 04:16:34 PM »
I have seen between 25 and 35% reduction in frame rates between XP and 7.  I never have any stutter or sound issues of any kind in XP though.  However, I never use onboard sound chips either.

I suspect many people will see a gain in performance from XP to 7 as their XP system is probably overloaded with garbage programs.  It will take a while, but their 7 system will get in that shape as well.

It makes the question difficult to answer.  You cannot fairly compare a 2 year old XP installation to a new 7 installation for most systems.
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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2009, 05:10:31 PM »
With Windows 7 64bit CPU utilisation on my Phenom II X2 550 is around 20% or lower (AH @ 1680x1050), so no issues there.
My frame rate is vsync limited to 60 fps, and it's normally pegged there (8800 GTS 512MB).
I haven't run without vsync, as I didn't try that before with XP, so wouldn't have anything to compare with.

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2009, 07:54:40 PM »
+1 on Skuzzy's remarks: a fresh install of almost anything (well, maybe not Vista) is likely to result in a cleaner system with less background stuff than a 2 year old installation of anything.

Now with all that said, my thinking is this:

If your new system comes with Windows 7, don't bother looking into reformatting the drive and installing XP. Win7 is good enough and the driver situation has now settled down for the most part. The only 2 exceptions I can think of is (1) if you MUST use old hardware that isn't supported by W7 or Vista and you can't easily or cheaply replace it with something newer -- Gameport joysticks come to mind, or (2) you need to manipulate audio or video in a manner that Win7/Vista's DRM-enabled pathways prevent you from doing.

If you have a system that's newer than 1 or 2 years old with XP and you want Windows 7, just buy a second hard drive and install Win7 from scratch onto it. You can still dual-boot to run any old software and games, but then run Win7 for all the new stuff.

If you have a system that's newer than 1 or 2 years old with Vista, just do an upgrade - it works pretty well. If you're at all concerned about the upgrade messing things up, then get a second hard drive for W7 as above.

If your machine is older than 2 years old, just stick with what you have, unless your 3-year old machine was a top-of-the-line $4000 monster.

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 02:04:59 AM »
The thought of the fresh install hits home. I'm sticking with XP for the time being.

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 05:47:59 AM »
I fully agree with Llama.


I switched to W7 because I had to install WinDbg  and lot's of dev stuff on my personal XP computer cause the one provided by work fried the day before a deliver with a close to the metal bug.

So I had to clean up this mess radically (read format :)) I installed 1st Xp then decided to give W7 a try (I've 2 boot hd I can switch easily) and properly configured on my hardware both system are iso for performance under AH.


The only advantage W7 has is the "WOW" effect it had on my daughter and on my son ... but this effect lasted only 10 seconds :D.


To conclude :
if you are a dedicated AHer and have a stable XP system : keep it
............................. ............................. ....unstable XP system : format and next install W7 or XP.

If I'm under W7 as I type I'ts because I was to lazy to switch back to XP !

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 06:52:48 AM »
llama's plan is a good one to follow. 

I would reinforce, if you have Vista, please upgrade to Windows 7 as soon as you can.  It is a worthwhile upgrade.
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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 08:27:42 AM »
Skuz, does Microsoft still plan on supporting XP Pro till 2014?

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2009, 09:50:36 AM »
I’m currently running Windows XP 32bit on my brand new system, I was going to upgrade to Windows 7, but after reading all the performance decreases I don’t know now. I’m a gaming freak and any decrease in my FPS is a big no, no!

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2009, 09:54:08 AM »
I use Windows 7 and XP Pro SP3. I do not have a performance decrease using Win 7 64. What it really comes down to though is the amount of RAM and the video card you are using. I have a 9800 GT and no problem. It is better to give it a try. I have been using the full released version for 2 months (I have the key because of work.)

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Re: Windows 7 vs XP
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2009, 10:41:34 AM »
Skuzzy, should I upgrade via the upgrade method, or do a reformat? I'd much like to just upgrade...
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