Author Topic: Too Little Too Late: Great Challenge for B17's Frame 1 (Read 1120 times)

oneway · « **on:** November 07, 2009, 12:13:16 AM »

FSO Design Team / FSO CM's

Awesome design and challenge for the 17's flying without formations, 100lb bombs and having to manually calibrate over a moving ocean...and having to hit moving targets...

Hats off to the designers...

One of the funnest FSO's I have flown...

oakranger · « **Reply #1 on:** November 07, 2009, 12:31:01 AM »

Quote from: oneway on November 07, 2009, 12:13:16 AM

FSO Design Team / FSO CM's

Awesome design and challenge for the 17's flying without formations, 100lb bombs and having to manually calibrate over a moving ocean...and having to hit moving targets...

Hats off designers...

One of the funnest FSO's I have flown...

Kind of hard to kill the B-17s when they have tail guns, which they shouldn't this early in the war.

SpiveyCH · « **Reply #2 on:** November 07, 2009, 09:44:26 PM »

Think with the Axis having 100 more pilots at launch, it should be a push with the tail guns.

My squad had 8 b-17's that got to target. It was not the tail guns that allowed us to do this. It was The Mighty 316th, USMC, and VF-17 Jolly Rogers, our fighter escorts. Great Job guys!

oakranger · « **Reply #3 on:** November 07, 2009, 10:54:13 PM »

Quote from: SpiveyCH on November 07, 2009, 09:44:26 PM

Think with the Axis having 100 more pilots at launch, it should be a push with the tail guns.

My squad had 8 b-17's that got to target. It was not the tail guns that allowed us to do this. It was The Mighty 316th, USMC, and VF-17 Jolly Rogers, our fighter escorts. Great Job guys!

Yea, we ran into a large hord of P-40, about 50 + where counted against 15 A6M2

TracerX · « **Reply #4 on:** November 09, 2009, 11:11:52 AM »

Quote from: oakranger on November 07, 2009, 10:54:13 PM

Yea, we ran into a large hord of P-40, about 50 + where counted against 15 A6M2

By my observation, the Eastern CV taskforce was incredibly well defended while the Western CV taskforce was only lightly defended. Spivey was part of the Eastern attack force, and frankly, it was simply a miracle that we were able to sink the CV at all. The second strike on the CV met with a wall of A6M's that made Custer's Little Big Horn look like a Birthday Party. Thankfully, MGD and the Nightmares were able to slip in and finish it off with a few bombs and a little straffing. That was a fun fight on the Eastern side. Salute to both Axis and Allied squads.

Strip · « **Reply #5 on:** November 09, 2009, 07:54:38 PM »

Quote from: oneway on November 07, 2009, 12:13:16 AM

FSO Design Team / FSO CM's

Awesome design and challenge for the 17's flying without formations, 100lb bombs and having to manually calibrate over a moving ocean...and having to hit moving targets...

Hats off to the designers...

One of the funnest FSO's I have flown...

I detect sarcasm....

Calibration over ocean should not be an issue with E6B enabled as you can calibrate without even seeing the ground.

Any real bomber pilot worth is salt would consider that child's play.....

Strip

oneway · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2009, 02:07:47 AM »

Clueless, Insulting and Useless...

Thanks for your input Strip as usual

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2009, 02:54:44 AM »

Quote from: TracerX on November 09, 2009, 11:11:52 AM

By my observation, the Eastern CV taskforce was incredibly well defended while the Western CV taskforce was only lightly defended. Spivey was part of the Eastern attack force, and frankly, it was simply a miracle that we were able to sink the CV at all. The second strike on the CV met with a wall of A6M's that made Custer's Little Big Horn look like a Birthday Party. Thankfully, MGD and the Nightmares were able to slip in and finish it off with a few bombs and a little straffing. That was a fun fight on the Eastern side. Salute to both Axis and Allied squads.

You guys were bullies, slowly taking me apart, piece by piece, with your bullets and even fuselages.

I saw some good wingman tactics executed. <S> sled and the USMC/71Sqn

Strip · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2009, 08:50:31 AM »

Quote from: oneway on November 10, 2009, 02:07:47 AM

Clueless, Insulting and Useless...

Thanks for your input Strip as usual

Some fires never die with you I guess....

By the way, anytime you want help with calibration technique just give me a shout.

I will have you calibrating with your eyes shut in no time....

Strip

daddog · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2009, 09:31:06 AM »

Thanks for the offer Strip.
I too had some problems with manual calibration. After Golfer taught me how I was putting eggs on a CV in the first pass. He also posted up a how to.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,271383.0.html

Strip · « **Reply #10 on:** November 10, 2009, 09:43:03 AM »

Yep, Golfer's how-to is pretty much my standard method of calibrating.

Sometimes I wish you could enter the speed you want, its very handy in certain circumstances.

Strip

TracerX · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2009, 10:49:01 AM »

Quote from: Kermit de frog on November 10, 2009, 02:54:44 AM

You guys were bullies, slowly taking me apart, piece by piece, with your bullets and even fuselages.
I saw some good wingman tactics executed. <S> sled and the USMC/71Sqn

Kermit, was that you in that crazy dancing Zeke? You had us stymied. You kept Sled and I with our wingmen completely occupied for almost the entire engagement. That was some outstanding flying on your part. It is one thing to be defensive in a nimble A6M, but you were getting shots off on us in the overshoot. Excellent flying there Kermit!!

There must have been a ton of players based at that CV because our second strike met with far greater resistance than the very difficult fight we had with your squad Kermit. We lost all our bombers, and all but one of our escorts on the second wave.

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