Whistle blowing on Global Warming

[bj229r]

I couldn't agree with you more.  True environmental stewardship is being lost in the shrill cacophony of the global warming alarmists.

I'll never criticize one of Dredgers silly little missions again

[Getback]

I wonder how many folks are embarrassed that they bit into the global warming farce and are really just defending their ego.

[Bronk]

I wonder how many folks are embarrassed that they bit into the global warming farce and are really just defending their ego.

Careful, you'll upset the "true believers".

[narsus]

I wonder how many folks are embarrassed that they bit into the global warming farce and are really just defending their ego.

As one of the initial global warming "alarmists" a few years ago, I made a classic mistake of trusting others (more "prominent" scientists than myself) to do my research and draw conclusions for me. But looking into it myself and interpreting the satellite data over the last 30 years. I find there is an "overall" upward trend, but it is not as severe as the global warming scientists would like us to believe. The last 10 years or so the global temperatures have remain fairly constant.

The Earth has been warmer and cooler in the past, and may we be contributing this time? The answer in my mind is maybe, other activities that we do such as deforestation may be having a larger impact upon the environment than driving cars around. Who knows for certain. There are way too many variables to make an accurate prediction.

The "junk" science of the global warming hypothesis is that too much money is involved and the data is not looked upon objectively. Myself being in the scientific community there is much pressure from fellow scientists to follow the bandwagon. I have been done following for a while now and think we should concentrate on the problems that are noticeable and damaging in a reasonable and responsible way as I posted earlier.

I am a proponent of hydrogen fuel cells (combining hydrogen with oxygen to get water) in cars over using hybrids (due to the creation and disposal of batteries). Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, we will never run dry of it. As long as the methods of extracting hydrogen from water and the like are efficient and a "true" solution.

 

[CAP1]

I wonder how many folks are embarrassed that they bit into the global warming farce and are really just defending their ego.

more than a few i'd imagine. they'll never admit it though. 

[bj229r]

Bigger thing is..What % of this research is an agenda looking for a particular outcome? No end of things in this world whose cure seems to be diminishing capitalism somehow

[CAP1]

As one of the initial global warming "alarmists" a few years ago, I made a classic mistake of trusting others (more "prominent" scientists than myself) to do my research and draw conclusions for me. But looking into it myself and interpreting the satellite data over the last 30 years. I find there is an "overall" upward trend, but it is not as severe as the global warming scientists would like us to believe. The last 10 years or so the global temperatures have remain fairly constant.it's been more than 10 years i think. actually, i've noticed generally cooler summers in the area i live.
 i don't know what to even say about a scientist(i assume you are by your statements?) letting others do his research. i'm a diagnostician, and if i take over a job others couldn't figure out, i NEVER take their info. i start from scratch, and do all of my own testing. and compared to what we're talking about, what i do is relatively simple.

The Earth has been warmer and cooler in the past, and may we be contributing this time? The answer in my mind is maybe, other activities that we do such as deforestation may be having a larger impact upon the environment than driving cars around. Who knows for certain. There are way too many variables to make an accurate prediction. yes.........she cycles.........but i still believe that the human race is nothing more than a spec of dust in the grand scheme of things.
 as for deforestation.....i whole heartedly agree i've been saying this for many many years. it doesn't take a scientist to grasp blatantly obvious things like this. point? most plant live breathes in co2, and breathes out o2. the more plant life we eliminate, the less of a co2 "sink" we have.  

The "junk" science of the global warming hypothesis is that too much money is involved and the data is not looked upon objectively. Myself being in the scientific community there is much pressure from fellow scientists to follow the bandwagon. I have been done following for a while now and think we should concentrate on the problems that are noticeable and damaging in a reasonable and responsible way as I posted earlier.glad you woke up. now if more would do the same. it's human nature to want to "jump on the bandwagon", and the ones that want to push this watermelon know that, and use it.

I am a proponent of hydrogen fuel cells (combining hydrogen with oxygen to get water) in cars over using hybrids (due to the creation and disposal of batteries). Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, we will never run dry of it. As long as the methods of extracting hydrogen from water and the like are efficient and a "true" solution. hybrid cars could be better than what they are. but i think that with current technology, they are the best solution, if we really feel the need to change things. i personally don't care for hybrids(i'm a hot rodder), but i do realize we need to do something.

 

[CAP1]

Bigger thing is..What % of this research is an agenda looking for a particular outcome? No end of things in this world whose cure seems to be diminishing capitalism somehow

i've never been one of the most intelligent people in the circles i hang with. i have, however, always been one of the smartest.
 i tend to over-analyze things. i tend to never take things at what they seem. often this makes me appear paranoid. it annoys some of my friends.
 but...when you REALLY read things, and pay attention to what you read, you don't even have to dig into the scientific parts to realize this was all a ginormous sham.

 as long as i can remember, i've been saying it was bs, and now it's finally coming out.....

[bj229r]

Alas, still no MSM comment on Climaquiddick...other than the occasional print story about an investigation of privacy/theft, etc.

[narsus]

CAP

I have a Bachelor of Science in Geology and a Master of Science in Education with a concentration in Meteorology. If that doesn't qualify not sure what does, I would like to get my PhD someday is Astrophysics or the like (my true love), but that is a while off due to cash limitations.

A few years back I was a lab supervisor for an environmental consulting firm (2 years), and a clean up company for a year or so. You would be amazed at how much crap is out there leeching into the soil and water supply.

I am not a primary researcher (never have been), just look at the data on my free time is all. Honestly, the trends of temperatures for 20 years there were definitely increasing, the last 10 not so much (even a downward trend depending on how you look at the data). The raw data is pretty easy to find from weather satellites all the way back to December of 78 through to the present.

I do respectfully disagree with you about humans being a spec on the Earth, we cause way more harm than good IMO. Maybe not from a climate change perspective, but in many other areas it gets pretty bad.

[DrDea]

 I called BS on the global warming scam from day one.Just due to the fact Al Bore jumped on the band wagon. Glad to see they have been called out for it. Question is,Will Obama continue to be an idiot and give the cap and trade a blank check and toss the US into a global controlled asset? I wuld bet he does.

[Cthulhu]

I wonder how many folks are embarrassed that they bit into the global warming farce and are really just defending their ego.

All of them.

The data is the data, no matter how much some people may want to "touchy feely" it. This farce has been foisted on the stupid (but well intentioned) for far too long. We cannot hurt this planet. We can hurt ourselves however. which could prove a blessing given how stupid we've become as a people. Darwin Awards for all who see Al Gore as the Messiah.

[1pLUs44]

Earth Cools and heats on it's own. Look at the past 50,000 years. We've been steadily warming from a previous Ice Age.

Don't see the big deal, if it kills us, it kills us.

[Widewing]

I was reading a page belonging to a New Zealand Computer Scientist that reveals much about the Global Warming mob and their Nazi-like sense of intellectual superiority.

This little ditty is striking:
"'Stop calling people who disagree with you "deniers"'.

That's not why we call anti-science denialists "deniers". We call them "deniers" because they're anti-science denialists."

Wow! This is stunning. I'm a well educated man, and I'm utterly amazed at the overwhelming arrogance seen here. Moreover, it is not isolated, but common among the Global Warming zealots

These folks sound not unlike those promoting the Aryan master race nonsense of the 1930s, as documented by Nazi "scientists", except they have reversed it to nearly equate GW skeptics with holocaust "deniers". I'll say it again, this is remarkable.

They use other terms, like "denidiots" as well.

Another poster writes describing Anthropomorphic Global Warming skeptics:

"I think these people were the retards at school who've grown up into adults who are profoudly (sic) jealous of the vast numbers of people whose intelligence exceeds theirs by a considerable margin. They hold contrarian views as a form of revenge against the intelligence which eluded them."

You can read all of this incredible stuff right here (scroll thru the whole page): http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/11/new_zealand_climate_science_co.php?utm_source=sbhomepage&utm_medium=link&utm_content=channellink


My regards,

Widewing

[FTJR]

Looks like it might cause an election in Australia.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8382069.stm