Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two

[Buzzard7]

I watched the videos and it is possible it rammed them, it is possible they went to avoid thinking the batboat would speed up.
IN any case the batboat played games and lost, and also vessle of least maneurvability has right away.
I read and mabe wrong the whales they are hunting are not endagered

I agree with cattb on this.
Finally someone got it right with the right of way thing. Big vessel that cannot turn and burn has the right of way.
When you and your little 60' fishing boat cuts across say a large tanker and said tanker splits your rowboat in half it is YOUR fault. SS got exactly what they deserved for that mistake.

[DrDea]

I think you are entirely correct on this point, Rolex.   

Thank gawd somone put it so even the brain dead can get it.Or maybe they wont.

[Vulcan]

Perhaps because we pump everything full of preservatives? Nobody receives real milk unless they go straight to the source.

WTF your milk has preservatives in it? Ewww.

[DREDger]

I think when you hear the Japanese whalers laughing in hysterics after they ram sortof shows it wasn't inadvertent.

Whaler purposely made a hard turn to starboard to ram.  That crosses the line.

[Denholm]

Still refusing the legible point that the larger vessel has the right-of-way?

[Masherbrum]

It ceases to amaze me how "someone" can drag this thread out to 11 pages.

The PETAboi's are at fault.   The larger craft has the right-of-way.   "Laughing at stupidity", the Japanese were doing just that.   Those PETAboi's might as well have been in a Zodiac.   Only a complete idiot would "play chicken" with a ship "at least 20 times the displacement as yours".  

[cattb]

Still refusing the legible point that the larger vessel has the right-of-way?

Less maneurverable has right of way at least on western rivers it does. International and Western Rivers rules of the road should be about the same.
The black boat had a whole ocean to navigate did it have to navigate infront of the Japaneseboat,no.

 
 
 
 
 
 

[Denholm]

Sorry, used the wrong word. It was what I was trying to imply. Thank you for the correction.

[PJ_Godzilla]

It ceases to amaze me how "someone" can drag this thread out to 11 pages.

The PETAboi's are at fault.   The larger craft has the right-of-way.   "Laughing at stupidity", the Japanese were doing just that.   Those PETAboi's might as well have been in a Zodiac.   Only a complete idiot would "play chicken" with a ship "at least 20 times the displacement as yours".  

An idiot or someone who wants to die... I contend that that's a subliminal wish of many zero-impact enviros.

Otherwise, I agree with you completely but think you meant that it never ceases to amaze you that a dead horse can be beaten so thoroughly.

BTW, that assklown Captain of the SS almost sank his vessel colliding it with one of the whaler tenders last season. http://earthblips.dailyradar.com/video/sea_shepherd_captain_lies_about_collision_with_whaling/

Then he lied about it.

I don't know what the Dredger sees on that vid (http://ecopolitology.org/2010/01/06/whale-wars-japanese-whalers-slice-sea-shepherd-boat-in-half-video/), either, that makes him think the Japanese caused this. The vid taken from the deck of the whaler looks pretty convincing - the Ady Gil accels (watch the wake) to cut right across their path.

In the other vid,  (http://ecopolitology.org/2010/01/06/whale-wars-japanese-whalers-slice-sea-shepherd-boat-in-half-video/) it apears that the whaler is turning to starboard initally, then away after the impact. given the latency in response of a ship of that size, (I've helmed a 154' schooner when much younger) they may just as well have been seeking to avoid the Ady, only a bit late. My own thinking was that the Japanese were playing chicken and didn't expect the Ady to slowly accel into their path.

In fact, it almost looks like an error on the part of the Ady helmsman to me, compounded by the bluff of the Japanese helmsman. I'd still weigh this in favor of the Japanese, since the only reason that two such errors added up to a wreck was the fact that the Ady created the situation.

Either way, I hope at least a few of those kids die down there. I'm going to take a few minutes and go write some more hate messages on the TV site. I can't wait for that bloated turd dispenser Captain to die.

Scratch that... they used to have online posts. They now direct you, via the "let your voice be heard" link, to write elsewhere.

DIE SEA SHEPHERD, DIE!!!!

[DREDger]

I don't know what the Dredger sees on that vid

Here is the video I am talking about.  It shows the whaling ship make a hard turn to starboard in order to ram against the batboat.  In particular, the video time between 06-09 seconds.  You can see the whaling ship make a hard turn, you can even see the bow wave to port created due to the hard starboard turn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbuq0YEIPNU

In conjunction with the video shown on the whaling ship, where the batboat is some distance off to the starboard side idling.  Then that gap narrows until the collision happens.

That's why the whaling boat is at fault, it was a purposeful ram. 

[Shuffler]

I don't know why the terrorist are allowed to go in any port. They even show on film their terrorist acts at sea. Do they port in somalia with others of their ilk?

[Vulcan]

In conjunction with the video shown on the whaling ship, where the batboat is some distance off to the starboard side idling.  Then that gap narrows until the collision happens.

That's why the whaling boat is at fault, it was a purposeful ram. 

And in the other videos you can clearly see the batboat accelerate into the path of the whaler. If the batboat had not done so no collision would've occurred.

It may have been the whaler expected them to cross, and was moving to starboard to either avoid them or avoid the rope they may have been towing. The batboat had been doing this move a lot recently, sitting waiting til the whalers go close, then whizzing across their bow with a rope behind it trying to entangle the whalers props.

Also under maritime law the whaler has to give right of way to the vessel on his starboard moving to his port. Now, if the whaler thought the batboat had right of way and was moving starboard->port across his bow would it not be natural to turn to starboard to yield to them?

[Fishu]

Here is the video I am talking about.  It shows the whaling ship make a hard turn to starboard in order to ram against the batboat.  In particular, the video time between 06-09 seconds.  You can see the whaling ship make a hard turn, you can even see the bow wave to port created due to the hard starboard turn.

I still only see the perspective changing because of the Bob Barker's diagonal path. The whaler clearly can turn much faster than it appears on the video (the left turn was alot faster)

[phatzo]

they were just initiating a rolling scissor.
 

[Kazaa]

It's very clear that the kill ship purposely collide with the Batboat. You can see said Batboat start up and gain momentum to try and steer away from the killship, but they had no chance.

I bet it's the most exciting thing to happen on that lame arse reality T.V show  "Whale Wars" to date. The most overhyped show in history.