Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two

[Vulcan]

Let's not forget how the last Rainbow Warrior met it's end- limpet mines on the hull planted by French special forces. 

Say what you will about the French, but because of that they shall always have my respect.

While it was moored in a harbour, killing one engineer. At the time greenpeace were using her to protest the use of the south pacific for nuclear testing. TBH it's one of the few times I support them, from an age when they weren't the corporate entity they are now.

The french agents also got caught very quickly, and it was an embarrassment for the french government for committing an act of terrorism on foreign soil.

So you support murdering terrorists? You think taking a life of a engineer protesting the open testing of nuclear weapons was a good thing? I think the term for supporting this begins with the letter A and finishes with hole.

[Plawranc]

Do you think the USM Air Wing could accidently loose off a Maverick AGM at what looks like "a suspicsous vessel". They would be doing the world a favour, I am all for wildlife conservation but when a group of sweetheartbag wannabes want to turn it into a political statement or a press storm they should be taught a very hard and rather terminal lesson.

 

[Plawranc]

While it was moored in a harbour, killing one engineer. At the time greenpeace were using her to protest the use of the south pacific for nuclear testing. TBH it's one of the few times I support them, from an age when they weren't the corporate entity they are now.

The french agents also got caught very quickly, and it was an embarrassment for the french government for committing an act of terrorism on foreign soil.

So you support murdering terrorists? You think taking a life of a engineer protesting the open testing of nuclear weapons was a good thing? I think the term for supporting this begins with the letter A and finishes with hole.

Nuclear testing is a dangerous buisness and it is true that the protest was valid. However when they were planning on violating a military installation and holding up important military resources and research of a country under constant threat of invasion (NATO Soviet Invasion Scenario) you can see the logic supporting the removal of the Rainbow Warrior.

Their intention was to sink a boat, not murder someone. Although I do not condone or accept the death of an innocent man I think the French were within their rights and showed tactical sense in their actions.

[Fishu]

What the french did was illegal and wrong from the beginning, let alone the murder. The activists should have been apprehended if they were planning to commit a crime, or when caught doing so. Surely they could have tracked a single vessel, which was such a threat that they had to covertly sink it.

However these SS activists are terrorists and they should be jailed. With constant harrassing of other ships at sea with life threatening consequences there shouldn't be any problem to convict them. I would be really interested to know why they're still free to go as they please. Are the officials afraid of touching them due to the negative media attention it would cause? It's even worse if so - terrorists having an influence on the enforcement of law.

[DREDIOCK]

Whaler ship cuts USS PETA Batboat in two

All i can say to that is    

I truly hate what the Japanese are doing, but i dislike these jokers even more
 

Word.

And they now got what exactly what they deserved.

[1pLUs44]

yup, either that or the protest boat pulled the ol' "ill stop infront of you and your not supposed to run me over" trick


besides they hav to save the whales..........WTF! is that unicorn doin there
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They probably think it's a horse with a seat on it's head. 

[Masherbrum]

Those eco terrorists need to all be executed.

Whaling does suck though.

+1

[Gr8pape]

Death to ALL terrorist! Foreign or Domestic, Muslim or PETA, if you can't control yourself and act with some decency then you need to think over your plans. I ponder this, the leader of the PETA group is a diabetic, so for all of you diabetics out there, and I am sure there are a few that play the game, where does insulin come from?

Another thought, they want us to treat animals "humanely" right, well first it has to be a human to be treated humanely.

Don't get me wrong I am all for severely beating anyone who abuses animals, whether it be dog fighting, or malnourished horses or other animals, but don't tell me I can't eat meat because of they way it is killed, the spotted white owl taste like chicken!    

[john9001]

people still hunt whales because..................?

[allaire]

The Japanese hunt them for "research", but the are hunting them for meat.

Ingrid Newkirk doesn't have diabetes.  You are thinking of Mary Beth Sweetland(Director of Research & Rescue, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) and yes she uses insulin that is derived from animals.  PETA needs to be declared as a terrorist organization since they have close ties to the ALF and ELF.

[DREDger]

Watch the video carefully, the batboat moved slowly in on starboard, at the end of the video you can see the whaler was turning hard to port, the batboat then accelerated into it's path.

After watching it a few times I agree.  At first the batboat was idling, but then you can see it accellerates into the path of the whaling ship.  Not a very smart thing to do.  (Edit:  I just saw the other video on CNN showing the collision from a distance.  The Japanese whaling ship appears to turn into the batboat.  So maybe both parties here have some fault)

Reminds me of the guy protesting nucs in California who laid down in front of the train.  Train couldn't stop in time, protester loses legs.  Or the protester in Isreal laying down in front of a bulldozer, then got crushed to death.

As far as calling these protesters 'terrorists' I think is a stretch, morons yes, but terrorists not so much.  That term is best saved for the bombers and head choppers.

These ubergreenies throw stink bombs and foul ship propellers, but don't use lethal force.  I havn't heard a report of one Japanese whaler getting so much as a stubbed toe.  For that matter, they don't seem very successful at stopping the whaling either.

Speaking of the Japanese, doesn't anyone have a problem with them commercial whaling under the guise of 'research?'   I mean lets call a spade a spade here right?

[Fishu]

After watching it a few times I agree.  At first the batboat was idling, but then you can see it accellerates into the path of the whaling ship.  Not a very smart thing to do.  (Edit:  I just saw the other video on CNN showing the collision from a distance.  The Japanese whaling ship appears to turn into the batboat.  So maybe both parties here have some fault)

Read my post about the whaler "turning right": http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281370.msg3549459.html#msg3549459
The right turn is an illusion caused by the perspective changing due to diagonally moving platform. The other video is from a ship Bob Barker, which is also owned by Sea Shepherd. I suspect it was staged to look like the whaler intentionally rammed the other ship.

As far as calling these protesters 'terrorists' I think is a stretch, morons yes, but terrorists not so much.  That term is best saved for the bombers and head choppers.

They are not just throwing stink bombs or fouling ship propellers, but constantly causing life threatening situations. They are also throwing slicky liquids on the decks of the whalers so the crew couldn't operate on the decks. Losing propulsion at sea can be extremely hazardous to the lives of the crew. Seashepherds are also known to have crashed at least once before on a whaler and they did so intentionally - also back then claiming it was the whaler's fault.

As long as they're putting lives at dangers they are terrorists. Terrorism isn't simply to restricted to the direct act or threats of killing of people, but also includes other violence and the threat of death or violence. The constant close by harrassing and the other acts of the activists puts them all in very real danger.


What the japanese do may not be right by our standards, but that does not right the wrong. On top of that the japanese are not exactly breaking the law or treaties either. They're only breaking our morals. How would you like if the japanese would come over to tell us how to do things and excuse their activist terrorism with it?

[Demetrious]

So you support murdering terrorists? You think taking a life of a engineer protesting the open testing of nuclear weapons was a good thing? I think the term for supporting this begins with the letter A and finishes with hole.

From Wikipedia:

"One of the twelve people on board, photographer Fernando Pereira, returned to the ship after the first explosion to attempt to retrieve his equipment, and was killed when the ship was sunk by the second larger explosion."

Returning to - and going below decks on - a holed ship taking on water is as pants-on-head retarded as running back into a burning building to save your pet parakeet, and I have no sympathy for somebody who got themselves killed through such stupidity.

I did my research before I posted, I suggest you do the same in the future.

[Ack-Ack]

I ponder this, the leader of the PETA group is a diabetic, so for all of you diabetics out there, and I am sure there are a few that play the game, where does insulin come from?

He's probably like me and uses synthetic insulin.


ack-ack

[indy007]

So... when are they gonna sack up, stop messing with the Japanese, and start harassing your average American farmers for their brutal treatment of chickens & cows?