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For Military Gun Folks.
« on: January 16, 2010, 02:45:07 PM »



On top is the M1 Garand my son Thomas gave me this past Father's Day.
Below it is the M-14 he just purchased for himself.
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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 02:49:12 PM »
Nice looking guns. The stocks almost look identical.
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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 02:59:32 PM »
Yes I never realized until he brought the M-14 over today how much both weapons resemble each other.

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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 03:00:45 PM »
Except that the M14 shoots waaaay bigger bullets!

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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 03:16:45 PM »
Except that the M14 shoots waaaay bigger bullets!

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Huh? :headscratch: :huh

M1 Garand, chambered for 30-06.
M-14, chambered for .308.
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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2010, 03:26:21 PM »
Look at the magazine!

But the comparison you're making is like comparing the Desert Eagle to the Browning M2HB.  They are both chambered in .50 caliber; it's just that the Desert Eagle shoots .50 Action Express, and the M2HB shoots machine gun rounds.

You can't tell me that the bullets in the M1 Garand aren't smaller than the M14 bullets.

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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 03:33:26 PM »
The M1 was the finest battlefield implement ever made, why waste a good design.
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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2010, 03:44:56 PM »
Look at the magazine!

But the comparison you're making is like comparing the Desert Eagle to the Browning M2HB.  They are both chambered in .50 caliber; it's just that the Desert Eagle shoots .50 Action Express, and the M2HB shoots machine gun rounds.

You can't tell me that the bullets in the M1 Garand aren't smaller than the M14 bullets.

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 :huh

I can tell you that they shoot bullets that are the exact same diameter. However, the M1903 (30-06) cartridge chambered in the M1 is larger than the that of the 7.62mm X 52mm chambered in the M14/M1A. The M1903 develops a tad greater muzzle velocity (typically 100 fps when both push 150 grain FMJ boat-tails). Both are considered full-size rifle cartridges.



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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2010, 03:45:41 PM »
Look at the magazine!

But the comparison you're making is like comparing the Desert Eagle to the Browning M2HB.  They are both chambered in .50 caliber; it's just that the Desert Eagle shoots .50 Action Express, and the M2HB shoots machine gun rounds.

You can't tell me that the bullets in the M1 Garand aren't smaller than the M14 bullets.

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 Penquin the Garand is 30-06, and the M-14 is 7.62
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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 03:46:03 PM »
Look at the magazine!

But the comparison you're making is like comparing the Desert Eagle to the Browning M2HB.  They are both chambered in .50 caliber; it's just that the Desert Eagle shoots .50 Action Express, and the M2HB shoots machine gun rounds.

You can't tell me that the bullets in the M1 Garand aren't smaller than the M14 bullets.


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the bullets are .008" bigger.the case is actually shorter.

here is a pic for comparison.

.308 on left. .30-06 on right.




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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 03:49:19 PM »
Penquin, you may be mistaking the clips of the M1 Garand for magazines.
 

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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2010, 04:02:20 PM »
The M1 was the finest battlefield implement ever made, why waste a good design.

M1 Garand was good for its day but had three serious flaws.

1. You can't top up the clip after you shoot rounds out of it.

2. You must empty the clip of all eight rounds and eject the clip before you can reload.

3. When you fire the last round, the loud "PLING" noise the clip makes announces to the whole world that you're out of ammo!
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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2010, 04:13:35 PM »
Look at the magazine!

You can't tell me that the bullets in the M1 Garand aren't smaller than the M14 bullets.

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Different kind of magazines, the Garand uses more like stripper clips, only the end of the round fits in the clip.

You may be thinking of the M1 Carbine.

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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2010, 04:18:30 PM »
Huh? :headscratch: :huh

M1 Garand, chambered for 30-06.
M-14, chambered for .308.
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Re: For Military Gun Folks.
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 05:20:49 PM »
I don't think that penguin undersands the difference between the M1 Garand and the M1 carbine. FWIW all 3 shoot the same diameter slug, 7.62. (.30 cal) The M14 and the Garand shoot a much heavier 7.62 slug in the 147 to 150 grain range, the M1 Carbine uses the 110 gr. short stubby bullet.
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