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Offline Bear76

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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2010, 11:55:19 PM »
LMFAO wtg Kazaa HOWEVER i found this funny too

186 kills
21 assist
35 sorties
35 landed

186 kills per Death  rank 1
5.31 per sortie Rank 5
13.68 per hour of flight Rank 20
14.07 kills hit percent Rank 62
25787.61 kill points Rank 9

overall rank for Fighter 3 lol sad to say someone else was able to top these stats
Are those Katnip's stats when he vulched his brother's account?  :D
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Offline grizz441

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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #76 on: February 11, 2010, 02:33:14 AM »
If you follow the principles you've outlined it is possible to 'never die' in a jet, barring bad luck.

There are principles to follow that will keep you alive in any aircraft.  The issue becomes balancing Risk and Efficiency. 

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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #77 on: February 11, 2010, 02:46:27 AM »
You're right, although some are more abstract than others. For instance, the main principle for staying alive in a P40B is leave it in the hanger and go for lunch.
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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2010, 02:55:52 AM »
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Me262 flying requires an entirely different decision making process and the issue with that isn't so much as escaping guys on your 6 but more so escaping HOs from your 12.  I'm going to assume you can handle the jet pretty well batfinkv, seeing as how you are one of the uber sticks in the game, so I'm not directing this at you. 

In a jet, the goal is to 1) Avoid a HO 2) Get within 200yds for gun solution and 3) Stay above 400mph at most all times since you have a big target on your head.  Problems arise because 1) and 2) blend together so much.  It's not easy to get these perfect crossing shots without subjecting yourself to risk of ram or HO.  You have to really have a good understanding of the geometry and relative speeds/turn rates of the aircraft you are lining shots up on.  In one situation you might be able to set up a perfect kill shot on a K4 whereas the exact same situation, it's a HO/ram against a Spit16.  The variables are always changing.  It's also incredibly difficult to set up a non HO gun solution zipping around at 450mph.  You know how easy it is for a bogey to keep going nose on with you, the key is good wingman tactics with another jet or setting up a nasty maneuver to give you a thin gun edge as he tries to dodge.  It's a game of cat and mouse and incredibly too much fun.  I have lost more jets than I can count over the past year due to rams, HOs, and augers trying to master this thing.  You don't just hop in a jet first run and kill 10 bogeys, you have to learn how to exploit small edges, and be an expert on everything listed above.  In a given jet run, it might take 20 failed passes/HO dodges to achieve 8-10 acceptable gun solutions.  You have to be a master of situational awareness, angles, and gunnery to have any chance of surviving and bagging more than a few kills. 

I don't expect all to understand, just thought I'd try to explain the jet in a more colorful way than the Black/White-Pick/Run mentality that a lot of people see it as.
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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2010, 04:10:13 AM »
Are those Katnip's stats when he vulched his brother's account?  :D
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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #80 on: February 11, 2010, 10:05:45 AM »
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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #81 on: February 11, 2010, 10:57:18 AM »
  Great effort!  I've tried a couple times to try to go unkilled a tour, but after the 3rd or fourth day I get so bored I blow it.

 Wonder if that P40E kill was me? :)

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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2010, 11:58:21 AM »
I'm by no means a great stick, but reading this has inspired me to try this. <S> kazaa. This seems like it would be fun. I'm going to attempt this in the 190D9 as it is my squads fighter of choice.

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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2010, 01:47:01 PM »
Thanks for the support gents, it means a lot. :salute



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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2010, 01:56:51 PM »
look at me I'm so good.... :huh
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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #85 on: February 11, 2010, 02:00:06 PM »
do it in a Hurri2C/FM2 Zero/spit9 then I will be impressed :D

 there is NO way it could be done in those type planes, the reason its even possible in 262 or the like, is the speed aspect, the ability to "get the puck outta dodge".




the 16 overshot is hilarious :rofl the guy probably went into a tantrum after his tower trip  :rofl

262 dweebs

Rinse and repeat. Not many of us had the disposable hours some people have.

Still, i much prefer to take some risks and own a spit16 in a 'turn fight' while flying my jet, like this maybe:

Spitfire owned





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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2010, 02:30:21 PM »
look at me I'm so good.... :huh

Excellent input into the conversation here buddy, thanks for participating.
I tried to find your current score under "sirnuk3" but couldnt find you anywhere, too bad, this is kinda fun flying in this game, you should try it.
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Offline dedalos

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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2010, 02:31:09 PM »
I'm by no means a great stick, but reading this has inspired me to try this. <S> kazaa. This seems like it would be fun. I'm going to attempt this in the 190D9 as it is my squads fighter of choice.

Great, what the MA needs is more people waiting at the end of the runway for a good fight  :lol
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Offline PJ_Godzilla

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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2010, 02:48:27 PM »
Thanks for the support gents, it means a lot. :salute

Sure. There are some people who, by appearances below, seem to think you're coopting the site for self-aggrandizement. You might be but, even it it were true, it doesn't really matter. Why? Because this little thread, and the fact that I've had more time to fly lately (changing houses = done with the current one)) got me to thinking about why this little AH thing fascinates me so.

It was reading stories of people like Hans-Joachim Marseille or Lucky Tuck or Pete Townshend that first motivated me, well before I was even of the age to pursue Aero Eng. in college, to consider a career as a pilot. Later, after receiving a nomination to the USAFA (Rep. John Erlenborn was the chump who flakked for me), I withdrew when informed I couldn't be a pilot no matter what (allergies, nearsighted) and instead chose engineering.

That career choice landed me, eventually, in Automotive. Going back to AHII reminded me of why I set out on the path: because being able to use an airplane to kill another guy in an airplane is REALLY cool - even if (maybe especially if) it's not real.

The shameful secret: I too want to be a WWII ace... Yes, I'll cop to it. That's the pathetic little dream. Kazaa here has lived at least a less-comprehensive version of what that means.

Still, I think it means something and, if he can do it, maybe  I can too - and that holds even if he's a grandiose buffoon, though I don't detect that here.

BTW, I've watched some of Grizz' tater shots. I'm left baffled at the quality of the gunnery since I feel it's gunnery that cripples my use of the D9.

I'm flying tonight,  though, that's for sure. IF I could kill that mofo Kazaa, I'd be really proud of myself.  :cool:
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Re: Done for the tour
« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2010, 03:07:58 PM »
Excellent input into the conversation here buddy, thanks for participating.
I tried to find your current score under "sirnuk3" but couldnt find you anywhere, too bad, this is kinda fun flying in this game, you should try it.
sorry but I have to speak up for Nuk3 here, Maybe check the Red Storm logs for 9GIAP instead of just the MA stats, he's a class act.
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