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Offline firemike

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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2010, 05:04:11 PM »
your serious theyed just be cannon fauder -1000000000

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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 07:24:23 PM »
You're serious? They'd just be cannon fodder! -1000000000
They said the same about the Brewster B-239, yet the Brewster makes up .49 percent of all the deaths in the last tour and .54 percent of all kills in the most recent score. It isn't all about whether or not the plane is a late war über ride, rather, a plane should be added to fill a gap that is readily apparent in the game's plane set.
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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2010, 07:43:57 PM »
Have you noticed that there are no biplanes in aces high 2 i wish there were like the gladiator was obsolete but very important, but it would be awesome if we had the Swordfish because it was a very important in many carrier attacks.  I don't know why aces high doesn't have biplanes but it would be awesome to have at least the Swordfish.

Wasn't important in any carrier attacks. important in the sinking of Bismark, and in blowing the French out of the water, but in AH a 130mph biplane attacking the ridiculous very late war type ack over carriers would be suicidal
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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2010, 07:46:26 PM »
They said the same about the Brewster B-239, yet the Brewster makes up .49 percent of all the deaths in the last tour and .54 percent of all kills in the most recent score. It isn't all about whether or not the plane is a late war über ride, rather, a plane should be added to fill a gap that is readily apparent in the game's plane set.


Wow, half of one percent on what has got to be THE most overly generous modeling of the brewster in the history of flight sim gaming?


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(Just laughing at the numbers, I'm all for the swordfish and for filling plane set holes!)


P.S. Danny, in scenarios, AvA, SEA, etc, the lethality of CV ack can be toned down for early-war planesets, thus making it somewhat survivable to attack carriers in early war planes. In the MAs you are quite right, it would be suicide.
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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 09:37:11 PM »
I have not double checked the stats for the Swordfish, but woulnt the B5N be a viable substitute?   :)
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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2010, 05:41:26 PM »
Because THEY SUCK! lol :rofl
  they dont suck some of them did but a lot of important ones didnt

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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2010, 05:52:58 PM »
You may be right that they were most produced but a Po-2?????? Come on man at least show a biplane that saw some freaking action. Like the Gladiator, I-15, or Swordfish. Not a TRAINER!?!?!!?


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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 06:14:29 PM »
     The Night Witches used the Po-2 as a night harassment bomber.
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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2010, 01:03:08 PM »
I believe that some bi-planes operated off of cruisers and battleships as spotters.  Then again, they would probably be operating away from more capable aircraft.

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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2010, 01:26:28 PM »
I believe that some bi-planes operated off of cruisers and battleships as spotters.  Then again, they would probably be operating away from more capable aircraft.



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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2010, 01:27:28 PM »
Why in the world are you guys talking about the sexual pref of an aircraft?  It's like a bunch of BANS waiting to happen................   :confused:
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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2010, 02:12:50 PM »
Swordfish would be ripped apart in MA. You cant even get close enough in 88s most of the time. how do you expect to get close enough in a biplane that, at best, will go 150 mph?
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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2010, 08:58:34 PM »
"I have not double checked the stats for the Swordfish, but woulnt the B5N be a viable substitute?"

There is no substitute for a Swordfish, it's unique.

Cannon fodder? All too often the case, but it didn't deter the aircrews of the Fleet Air Arm from attacking whenever and wherever they found the enemy. I couldn't care less whether 'it won't survive in the MA' or not - but I'd like the chance to fly the aircraft that succeeded against the odds and crippled the Italian fleet at Taranto, sank hundreds of thousands of tons of Axis merchantmen in the Mediterranean, protected the vital Atlantic convoys from U-boat attack by flying off and landing on the smallest operational carrier decks ever built (the MAC-ships) - and took on the greatest concentration of German warships seen in WW2, when 'Winkle' Esmonde led his 'forlorn hope' of half-a-dozen Stringbags against Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Prinz Eugen and their air and sea escorts even though he knew he hadn't a hope in hell of surviving.

Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who like to re-create and test history by using a good combat flight sim, not a MA arcade-gamer - so I vote FOR the Swordfish. And the US Navy's Douglas TBD-1 Devastator.

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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2010, 11:08:25 PM »
It would be a cool Early War plane +1.

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Re: Swordfish
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2010, 08:21:39 AM »
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"I have not double checked the stats for the Swordfish, but woulnt the B5N be a viable substitute?"

There is no substitute for a Swordfish, it's unique.

Cannon fodder? All too often the case, but it didn't deter the aircrews of the Fleet Air Arm from attacking whenever and wherever they found the enemy. I couldn't care less whether 'it won't survive in the MA' or not - but I'd like the chance to fly the aircraft that succeeded against the odds and crippled the Italian fleet at Taranto, sank hundreds of thousands of tons of Axis merchantmen in the Mediterranean, protected the vital Atlantic convoys from U-boat attack by flying off and landing on the smallest operational carrier decks ever built (the MAC-ships) - and took on the greatest concentration of German warships seen in WW2, when 'Winkle' Esmonde led his 'forlorn hope' of half-a-dozen Stringbags against Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Prinz Eugen and their air and sea escorts even though he knew he hadn't a hope in hell of surviving.

Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who like to re-create and test history by using a good combat flight sim, not a MA arcade-gamer - so I vote FOR the Swordfish. And the US Navy's Douglas TBD-1 Devastator.

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