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Offline Karnak

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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2010, 05:59:51 PM »
SgtPappy,
 Sea Mossies would be fun, but they didn't make it in time for WWII.  The Royal Navy really got neglected on procurment.  They either had to use adapted RAF planes like the Seafire or American aircraft.

As to the NF.30, it only did about 320mph on the deck as its engines were optimized for higher altitudes where it could do about 430mph at best alt.  Weight wise it shouldn't be too different, replacing the .303s and ammo with AI X radar and losing the bomb bay.  NF.30s did get used during the day as well, and some carried 500lb bombs under each wing for ground strikes.

I agree, a well flown Mossie can be quite deadly and very capable to get kills in the right hands.
The Mossie also has the advantage of making an error on the other guy's part almost instantly fatal due to sheer firepower.
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2010, 06:43:13 PM »
That Pyro referred to Scherf's data and logic makes me wonder if we won't see a slight boost to climb rate as well.

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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2010, 06:48:55 PM »
Since Mosquito questions are being answered here, I would like to ask a few.

How are you pros out there going to deal with F4U-4's, La-7's and the likes? We all know twin-engine aircraft are bleeding bate for these LW piranhas.

Final question: What variants are these? They look like FB. VI's with 4-bladed props. Definitely single-impeller Merlins.

(Image removed from quote.)

Those are FB.VIs of the Turkish Air Force, post-war.

Edit - That's a beautiful pic, and one I'd not seen before. Thanks for posting.

Dealing with F4U-4s and La-7s will be the same as before - depends on the respective pilots. Thrila and Bat will clean up against pretty much anyone, I should just be able to hold my own against noobs.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 06:52:17 PM by Scherf »
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2010, 08:59:10 PM »
Honestly, I was not expecting the Mossie to be redone so thoroughly.  We have asked for it to be changed, but none of the other aircraft that were graphically updated to AH2 standards have ever received more than tweaks to their flight models, if even that much.  Further, with the relatively recent CG tweak the need to revise the Mossie's flight model seemed to have receded.

I was hoping for this level of attention for the Mossie from HTC, but I really wasn't expecting it.

I am extremely pleased to say the least.
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2010, 09:38:59 PM »
Seconded!
... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2010, 09:47:32 PM »
Third-ed?

I suppose that there were too many 'well-informed whines' if you will, to the point that the Mossie was fixed entirely.

Or Pyro could be pulling our legs, knock on wood  :D
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2010, 02:52:06 AM »
How are you pros out there going to deal with F4U-4's, La-7's and the likes? We all know twin-engine aircraft are bleeding bate for these LW piranhas.
Like with any other plane: HO, gang bang and stick-stir :joystick:
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2010, 04:29:45 AM »
Fourthed  :x


So the next question is when?

I am already flying the existing Mossie mor ein anticipation.
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2010, 05:29:34 AM »
"In 1940 I could at least fly as far as Glasgow in most of my aircraft, but not now! It makes me furious when I see the Mosquito. I turn green and yellow with envy. The British, who can afford aluminium better than we can, knock together a beautiful wooden aircraft that every piano factory over there is building, and they give it a speed which they have now increased yet again. What do you make of that? There is nothing the British do not have. They have the geniuses and we have the nincompoops." Hermann Göring



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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2010, 06:20:23 AM »
Like with any other plane: HO, gang bang and stick-stir :joystick:
We need the mosquito so we can look pretty when we do it.
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2010, 06:21:32 AM »
Can't wait to check out the new Runsquito.  :joystick:

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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2010, 11:16:14 AM »
Can't wait to check out the new Runsquito.  :joystick:
It won't be that much faster.  Basically, at lower altitudes, it is being promoted from the lower end of the D speed grade to the lower end of the C speed grade up with things like the Fw190A-8, Spitfire Mk XIV, Yak-9U and La-5FN, but still behind the P-51D, Bf109K-4, Typhoon of the B grade and Fw190D-9, F4U-4, La-7 and Tempest of the A grade.
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2010, 11:46:34 AM »
Honestly, I was not expecting the Mossie to be redone so thoroughly.

Funny thing is, I had a hunch. :) Mainly because of the CoG and other problems. All in all, I think it's great Pyro completely redid it!
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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2010, 03:25:26 PM »
It won't be that much faster.  Basically, at lower altitudes, it is being promoted from the lower end of the D speed grade to the lower end of the C speed grade up with things like the Fw190A-8, Spitfire Mk XIV, Yak-9U and La-5FN, but still behind the P-51D, Bf109K-4, Typhoon of the B grade and Fw190D-9, F4U-4, La-7 and Tempest of the A grade.

Yeah, as you said, it will climb up a healthy 11 spots from currently 30th fastest to 19th fastest. More importantly, it will outrun or closely match planes that right now can run her down and then beat in a dogfight. Spit 16, Ki-84, P-38s and F4Us come into my mind. A major portion of the current MA population will be much less of a worry.   

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Re: Mosquito Mk VI questions
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2010, 04:22:39 PM »
Yeah, as you said, it will climb up a healthy 11 spots from currently 30th fastest to 19th fastest. More importantly, it will outrun or closely match planes that right now can run her down and then beat in a dogfight. Spit 16, Ki-84, P-38s and F4Us come into my mind. A major portion of the current MA population will be much less of a worry.   

Funny thing is... the Mossi was meant to be able to do that (hit-n-run more so than stand-n-fight).  The Mossi's trump card should be its speed.  Get in, drop the targets, and get out. 

I doubt it will make the short list of "runner" planes. 
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