New sniper record

[NaTorino]

Lethal just joined ah from fa, he was in Marine 1st recon, he has some good sniping stories. 

[Tec]

I was thinking along those lines as well saggs with the adjustable scope and mil dots. But something about it still bakes my noodle, I wish I was more familiar with the type of optics they use so I could get a better picture in my head.  I think what we need is an AH BBS shoot.  I'll provide the beer.  Can someone else provide the land to shoot on and the $20,000 guns?

[Vulcan]

Hollow Point Boat Tail Match bullets far exceed any FMJ offering...

HP bullets are banned from military use under the Hague convention... correct me if I'm wrong or misunderstand that though.

[jdbecks]

HP bullets are banned from military use under the Hague convention... correct me if I'm wrong or misunderstand that though.

I think your right, someone must have thought it was not a humane way to shoot someone 

[RTHolmes]

I believe what the article states is that he "aimed" 6' above target.

I interpret that as he had to place the crosshair 6' above target, meaning the round dropped 6' more then he had elevation adjustment for with his scope. 

Put another way he had to aim 6' higher then he had scope adjustment for.

yeah thats how I interpreted it. he was also firing from a "ridge" relative to the patrol/target. how high, we dont know, just as we dont know what bullet is loaded in those high pressure .338 cartridges. we also dont know which scope mount hes using, or where his zero range is set. given the mission profiles our snipers have over there, and the great ballistic conditions I'd be amazed if he were zerod at 100yds ...

could he see over the barrel? the scope has 56MOA and the mounts come with options of 18/28/45MOA builtin.
http://www.accuracyinternational.com/products.php
http://www.schmidtbender.com/PMspecs3_12x50LP.htm

what I do know is that hes a 35yr old Sgt (equiv) in the HC so this will not be his first tour, and that the British Army use sniper overwatch in Afghanistan in preference to CAS because its cheaper/more diplomatic/we have less air resources than US army. many of our snipers are coming home with 20+ kills under their belt, so the army is getting alot of practise, every day, for 8 years, in almost perfect conditions. if you're going to set sniper records, this is the time and place to be doing it.

Holmes could you run a .50bmg round through that program once just for comparison sake?

here ya go
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi

[Flench]

I had a 308 but they are junk . I hate to know I had to set in a tree with one . I take my 270 over it any day . Never shot the 50 cal but I know that would be the way to go , lol ....

[BowHTR]

I had a 308 but they are junk . I hate to know I had to set in a tree with one . I take my 270 over it any day . Never shot the 50 cal but I know that would be the way to go , lol ....

you had the wrong kinda .308 then. try a Rem 700 .308

[JunkyII]

Dang and I thought I was good hitting a target from 600 meters with my Squad leaders M4 with ACOG.......




We are lucky to have him on our side!!!

 

[saggs]

I had a 308 but they are junk . I hate to know I had to set in a tree with one . I take my 270 over it any day . Never shot the 50 cal but I know that would be the way to go , lol ....

I shot a friends Weatherby .270 and Remington .338 at 300yds side by side last summer.  I actually did a better grouping with the .270, I think was the trigger on the Remington, it had a slighter harder pull, and just didn't feel as nice to me as the Weatherby.  The biggest rifle I actually own is a Winchester model 94 30-30 circa 1920's I inherited from my Grandfather.   It's only iron sights, but the range on it is so short that that doesn't matter anyway.  I still love it though, it's fun little rifle, and just big enough to take down a deer.  I play with my brother-in-laws .300 winmag, and 22-250 alot too, that 22-250 is great for popping groundhogs or jack rabbits at 100yds.  Yes I kill small animals for fun, I'm a terrible person   .  But to be fair I only do it because they make holes for me to twist my ankle, and get tractors stuck in.

From what I've read and seen the Barrett .416 is the new best uber-long rifle out there.  It stays supersonic longer then a .50 BMG and carries more kinetic energy past 2200yds.  Although it doesn't have the energy to punch through concrete and brick walls at shorter range like the .50, so I suppose the .50 BMG will remain king as far as military use.

[68ZooM]

I had a 308 but they are junk . I hate to know I had to set in a tree with one . I take my 270 over it any day . Never shot the 50 cal but I know that would be the way to go , lol ....

Yea my dad gave me his 1952 Husqvarna 30.06 Nitro 3000 Crown model he brought back while stationed over in Germany When he bought a browning 308 lever action, he hated that gun lol sold it a year later and got a Rem 30.06, the Husky was modeled after a Mauser98 and it shoots a extremely hot round 400 yards is no problem with this gun It's just remarkable how far them snipers can reach out with todays weapons, it was some amazing shots he performed  

[Flench]

You know I like my 270 BAR but I have a Rem 243 that is bad to the bone . It makes it hard when you go hunting . Don't know what I want to shoot . If I am going to be shooting long long range I will shoot the 243 ..I would love to try that 50 cal out !

[NOT]

I had a 308 but they are junk . I hate to know I had to set in a tree with one . I take my 270 over it any day . Never shot the 50 cal but I know that would be the way to go , lol ....

yep, .308s are junk... thats why most LE snipers, military snipers, and long range shooters in general shoot that round.....

[BowHTR]

yep, .308s are junk... thats why most LE snipers, military snipers, and long range shooters in general shoot that round.....

thats what i was thinkin

[Flench]

I bet if they had a choice they would not .

[JunkyII]

yep, .308s are junk... thats why most LE snipers, military snipers, and long range shooters in general shoot that round.....

Actually.............................your kinda wrong and Flench is kinda right.....


I forget its M-whateverorsuch but the Barretts 50 cal round is our best bullet as far as ballistics go.

It will also kill someone without hitting them.