trouble killing the new M4

[321BAR]

I skipped reading about half the thread, but I've had some serious issues fighting the M4A3(76)W. The armor surrounding the gun barrel seems nigh impenetrable. I went against one in a Tiger at 500 yards, me in a hull-down bunker, him hull-down under a ridge. Three shots in varying places on his mantlet bounced. He bounced four rounds, fifth killed my turret, seventh killed my tank. I dunno, but it seems to me the Sherman would lose the entire turret structure if hit point-blank with a Tiger's AP round.

at first i said it was gunnery error but now after fighting the M4 more often in the Tiger this seems correct to say the M4 is kinda wacked armorwise.

[E25280]

I skipped reading about half the thread, but I've had some serious issues fighting the M4A3(76)W. The armor surrounding the gun barrel seems nigh impenetrable.

I don't know about impenetrable, but the mantlet on the Sherman is the thickest armor at 89mm vs., say, the front hull armor at 51mm.  Where I think some people get confused is that on the PzkwIV, the mantlet is only 50mm vs. the front hull at 80mm.  So, if you are accustomed to hitting the turret near the gun and getting a IV to pop, and try the same against a Sherman, you will walk away thinking the Sherman is very tough.

[OOZ662]

Upon a bit of research, it seems the Tiger could only penetrate the Sherman's mantlet armor at below 200m or 218 yards. That's rather astounding.

[ACE]

For me i can't kill anyone its the other way around lol.

[321BAR]

Upon a bit of research, it seems the Tiger could only penetrate the Sherman's mantlet armor at below 200m or 218 yards. That's rather astounding.

but this doesnt explain the fact i had 3 "hit" shots on a sherman 76 in my tiger in the side and it didnt die until shot 4

[E25280]

but this doesnt explain the fact i had 3 "hit" shots on a sherman 76 in my tiger in the side and it didnt die until shot 4

Tracks?  Wheels?  Engine hit?  No film, hard to say what you actually hit.

[321BAR]

Tracks?  Wheels?  Engine hit?  No film, hard to say what you actually hit.

engine block. not even the engine shot out

[caldera]

That's the standard way for Hurri D's to die.
Just look at the numbers: Last tour the D killed a total of 104 Panzer IV's, but had 109 deaths by Panzer IV's. You can bet the overwhelming majority was not actively shot down by those tanks

I did get shot down by a Panzer today.
 
Came in at a steep angle and he started to ping me.  The hits threw off my aim and as I was crossing over top of him, the pinging sound turned into that horrible damage "crunching" sound.  I rolled over and went in. 
"Alright you bastage."    I went back to exact my revenge and pushed it too far - WHAM! (trees, not George Michael)
On the third try, he hit my oil and when I finally got him,  I towered and went to a base far, far away from that guy. 

[froger]

My M4s all die fast,

some tard ups a jugg and drops rocks on it and it go booms 





froger

[ZetaNine]

I watched someone pump 22 direct panzer hits into one yesterday before it went down.  all direct hits.

[Nutzoid]

Its too unrealistically, not to mention absurdly easy to kill tanks from gunfire alone anyway. (other then from fire from another tank, and mainly because of the ability to zoom the view) Any deviation from that is a major plus in my book.
There is an old military saying that "the best way to kill a tank is with another tank

And THAT is the way it should be. Not by flying around with zoom pulled into near microscopic view which RL pilots didnt have


There is an old military saying that "the best way to kill a tank is with another tank"

Must have been before my time. I spent almost 10 yrs in tanks, (M60's, M60A1, and M60A1 Rise Passive, M60A3)
and I never heard this. I was cheated!!

[OOZ662]

I watched someone pump 22 direct panzer hits into one yesterday before it went down.  all direct hits.

That someone was Xcalibur

Not by flying around with zoom pulled into near microscopic view which RL pilots didnt have

Hilariously enough, if you sit in a plane, hit the zoom key, and zoom all the way in, the game is at a 1:1 scale with real life.

[Clone155]

Hilariously enough, if you sit in a plane, hit the zoom key, and zoom all the way in, the game is at a 1:1 scale with real life.

... Really?

[OOZ662]

Yep.

[whipster22]

cooooooooool