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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2010, 04:09:47 PM »
Yes, a great tactic. You'll be tearing it up on the deck, see some n1k2. Bank left, and make a pass at 360mph.
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2010, 04:31:49 PM »
bj, this is about 190's not 109's


And letalis, its not a sure thing that he will evade if he sees tracers infront of him. If I see a spit turning get his guns on me (me on the deck, spit 1-2k above me flying in the opposite direction) I know that I'm safe (flying my P-51 or la-7) that I'm safe if I can survive his inital shot, as he won't have the speed or energy to catch me.


About the only time I would evade is if I see its a 110, speed demon, 190A8, or 4x cannon armed plane, as my chances of surviving his attack, or out running him in the case of the low alt speed demons, drops.
hmppfff you and Letalis started it :)

The key to using the 47 is to start with some alt. Nose over and I guarentee it will accelerate quite nicely.

(Oh yah, 109's and jugs make for nice fights....not so much the A5 though :headscratch:)
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2010, 11:40:36 PM »
Pherhaps the fighter gods have not seen fit to bless you with the skills required to use a 190  :devil.
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2010, 06:01:12 PM »
Pherhaps the fighter gods have not seen fit to bless you with the skills required to use a 190  :devil.

Step 1. HO (if step 1 fails, see step 2)

Step 2. RUN

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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2010, 06:03:47 PM »
Most of the 190 line can't outrun diddley squat.

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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2010, 07:44:01 PM »
Thus, the great emphasis on step 1
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2010, 08:07:18 PM »
Problem with a HO is that you can rarely force a win from anything with two cannons or 6 .50's. The exception is if you are flying a 110 or another large airframe.
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2010, 09:05:03 PM »
Yah...with most folks, the A8 is the bigger thing for that...D9..1 ping = no radiator
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2010, 10:10:45 PM »
True, but the mk108 has balistics that are just TERRIBLE. Anything with Hispanos, Mg151's or .50's will shread your cocpit before your 108's get on target (trigger for them is the same as for the 20mm's)
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2010, 10:39:43 PM »
True, but the mk108 has balistics that are just TERRIBLE. Anything with Hispanos, Mg151's or .50's will shread your cocpit before your 108's get on target (trigger for them is the same as for the 20mm's)

You don't have to use Mk 108 in 190A-8 ;)
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2010, 12:22:04 AM »
Yes, but it seems the majority do. IDK about bj229r's preferances, but I like the snapshot capabilities, and so take the 30mm's, with the remaining 20mm rounds as my "escape" fund.
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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2010, 02:53:36 AM »
True, but the mk108 has balistics that are just TERRIBLE. Anything with Hispanos, Mg151's or .50's will shread your cocpit before your 108's get on target (trigger for them is the same as for the 20mm's)

To be honest I have an easier time landing Mk108 30mm rounds in the 190A8 than in the 152, the 109s K4, G14, the old G6, and the 163. For some reason the ballistics "seem" easier even if only slightly. Placebo effect, no doubt, but these weapons multiply your effective killing power for as long as they last. They are more than worth the weight.

Lusche is right that you do not have to take 30mms (or even outboard guns at all). I've flown a A8 with 2-gun package before and mixed it up. I'm not saying it was "nimble" exactly, but I've done it. I'd suggest just up the A5 if that's what you want to do, or a C205. The entire point of putting up with the sluggish weight and horrible handling of the A8 is the extra firepower. That, alone, is why it is so much more lethal a killing machine than the A5.

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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2010, 04:55:17 AM »
I rarely use the 30mm in the A8, unless I know I'm gonna find bombers. The 20mm package is more than enough, with better ballistics. Cant wait to see if the weight ever gets tweeked tho, you'll see plenty more up.

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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2010, 12:32:07 PM »
It's not going to be a game-changer if the weights get fixed. The outboard 20mms will weigh more, the 30mms less, the airframe itself a bit lighter. Mind you we still have no word from HTC that they intend to tweak the weights at all.

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Re: FW-190 question
« Reply #74 on: June 22, 2010, 12:44:04 PM »
Hey Krusty I just noticed this, but whats up with the "radioactive member" status? Did hitech create a new level just for you  :rofl?
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