Need help testing some things - Version 3

[Pyro]

Game sounds.

On second thought High speed passes while as I mentioned before arent as bad as they were with the problems I was having.
But they are nothing short of intolerably annoying. It is as if the engines are revving way too high and are too high pitched even for a high speed pass. At slower speeds they sound fine

the longer I listened to them the more annoying they seemed to me. I ended up switching back to the regular non test version which sounds fine at all speeds.

What's your OS and sound card?  I've been testing for this and can't detect anything abnormal.  Is it blatantly obvious when you hear it?

[DREDIOCK]

Sorry bout dat.

OS is Windows XP Professional

Currently using a "Soundblaster Live" card with only the Drivers installed so the sound device is listed as "Creative EMU10K1 Audio Processor (WDM) "

I CAN pop in a PCI express "Soundblaster X-Fi Extreme audio" if you think it will help ORRR  if it will aid you in testing various cards. Just let me know.

Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L. 

Onboard sound and voice on the motherboard somehow completely porked in game regardless of the version running. A development which started occurring not after the first switch to the Miles system. But right after we switched back. Hasnt been the same since. Absolute cause if this is as of yet unresolved. But I am suspecting this was a problem on my end.

I have a thread on this adventure in Hardware software forum. LOL
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,289960.0.html  (Ignore the DXdiag as its a bit dated)

But basically I've given up on the on board sound and have it currently disabled in the bios and all those drivers removed.

In game the "SB Live" card sounds fine..perfect in fact running the regular version.
In the Tests that we are currently discussing. Everything sounds fine until I am in high speed passes whereas the other aircraft sound as if the engines are revving way too high for even a high speed pass.

I can tomorrow bring another machine into this room so I may record what I hear on my end and email you the file if you think that will help.

[Ghastly]

Hi Folks.

I haven't had more than a couple of free hours per month for flying for the last several, and cannot state whether previous versions were problematic on my system, as I believe that I might have missed the earlier releases that included the Miles Sound System.

However the current test version (launching via htsim8r.exe) causes the missing mouse cursor issue upon exit. The standard game (launched via Aceshigh.exe) does not.  I'm sure you already know this, but what's actually happening is that Aces High is not exiting, and as long as it's still showing on the process list the mouse cursor is missing/invisible.  Pressing CTL-SHIFT-ESC and terminating htsim8r.exe from the process list returns the mouse cursor.   Let me know if I can assist you further.   

I've attached the most important DXDiag and basic hardware information below.

Thanks,

Guy

My system hardware is

ASUS Rampage Extreme LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard
   (which came with)
SupremeFX X-Fi Audio Card
- ADI® AD2000B 8-channel High Definition Audio CODEC
- EAX® Advanced™ HD 4.0
- X-Fi CMSS®-3D
- X-Fi Crystalizer™
- Creative ALchemy
- Supports 1 x S/PDIF out header
- Supports Coaxial/Optical S/PDIF out ports on rear

additional components
    Pioneer CD/DVD Burner Black IDE Model DVR-118LBK LabelFlash Support - OEM
    PC Power and Cooling S75CF 750W EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
    SAPPHIRE 279L Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
    Crucial Ballistix 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BL25664BA1336
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500
    2 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (mirrored via Intel ICH "Raid" controller)
    BYTECC Black 1.44MB Internal Floppy Drive Mac OS 8.6/9.0/9.0.2/9.0.4/9.1 Win 98/2000/ME/XP/Vista

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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/25/2010, 22:49:29
       Machine name: (Removed)
   Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: Rampage Extreme
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/28/08 16:45:12 Ver: 08.00.14
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8500  @ 3.16GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
             Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM
          Page File: 1512MB used, 14868MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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       Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9440)
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         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9440&SUBSYS_E131174B&REV_00
     Display Memory: 3569 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 502 MB
      Shared Memory: 3067 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (59Hz)
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      Monitor Model: BENQ E2400HD
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        DDI Version: 10.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
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        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
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          Vendor ID: 0x1002
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       D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
            DXVA-HD: Not Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_989B&SUBSYS_10438334&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
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          Date and Size: 7/13/2009 19:07:00, 350208 bytes
            Other Files:
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         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Digital Audio (HDMI) (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_989B&SUBSYS_10438334&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
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                   Type: WDM
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            Other Files:
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    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
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 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_989B&SUBSYS_10438334&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 7/13/2009 19:07:00, 350208 bytes
            Other Files:
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         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/13/2009 19:07:00, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x0
           Format Flags: 0x0

            Description: Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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              Cap Flags: 0x0
           Format Flags: 0x0

            Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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DirectInput Devices
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         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: CH Control Manager Device 1
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC010
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2938
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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[hlbly]

Will do pyro

[Skuzzy]

Ghastly, I could not help but notice there does not appear to be a native sound card driver loaded causing the computer to use the basic Windows drivers supplied by Microsoft.

[Dawger]

I had the mouse cursor stuck at windowed screen issue. In the test version the problem no longer exists.

[Ghastly]

Hmmm  - let me check. 

The sound card came bundled with the motherboard, and the drivers for the sound were on the CD bundled with it - which was of course set up for an automated install (for XP and Vista) that I was more than fairly sure I didn't want to "let simply run" on Win 7 Pro.

So it's certainly within the realm of possibility (probability, even) that the drivers aren't set up right, even though it's seemed to work flawlessly.

I'll dig into it at some point this weekend, and report back.   

Thanks guys.

<S>

[ebfd11]

I tried installing it to try it but it says

htsim8r.exe -System Error

The program cant start because mss32.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.

Do i need to install the first one or what do I do??

[hlbly]

Pyro frame rate loss is reduced. I am going to go try  ver. 3 . OK just tested version 3 . Gun button stuck is gone . I tried 3 times auggering then re upping immediately . No issue with guns firing when spawning .  . I am going to go to MA and check frame rate

[Pyro]

Version 3 is now available.  See the first post in this thread for details.  Note that the .exe file has been renamed.

[Pyro]

I tried installing it to try it but it says

htsim8r.exe -System Error

The program cant start because mss32.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.

Do i need to install the first one or what do I do??

Did you put the file into your Aces High folder before running it?  Is your Aces High installation up to date? 

[Tigger29]

OK.. I installed it.  Here's what I got:

A>  Upon quitting, it doesn't even send me back to the main menu.. the application simply crashes.

B>  No problems whatsoever with stuck keys/buttons, etc... however while the test version recognized my saitek rudder pedals, it shows no input at all from them.. nevermind ignore that... windows wasn't showing any input either... unplugging/replugging them back in fixed that issue... i don't know why they did that but I'm 99.9% confident that it has nothing to do with AH... forget about this for now

C>  Sound seems great.. VOX is a bit distorted but understandable (I'm assuming because it's with others who aren't using Miles) but they can hear me clearly.  I did notice that it's nearly impossible to hear VOX over airplane engine noise, etc... and I found the volume controls for effects, voice, music, etc... however the voice volume setting will not go higher than the effects setting, so it is not possible to turn plane sounds down and voice sounds up... but I won't nitpick about this too much due to it being a test version haha.  Other airplane sounds and positioning seem just fine so far.

I can also successfully select speakers for airplane/outside noises and headphones for voice and it seems to work great... but since I have a 'sealed' type of headphones I ended up reverting back to headphones only... for now...

In case you need it, I went ahead and put my dxdiag on a website (don't worry Skuzzy.. no flash or java... heck it barely has html).  Just CLICK HERE.

[potsNpans]

Version 1,2, and 3 have same symptoms. Vox has 1~1.5 second delay before sound is heard, and not clearly heard. Saitek X-52 throttle with software(6.6.6.9) to enable mouse functions on stick, the left mouse button does not work. Also no mouse buttons on main mouse(driver5.1.2600.0) function when mapped for plane or vehicle use.
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Sound Devices
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            Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [CF00]
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20021102&REV_04
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1377 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: No
          Date and Size: 3/18/2010 20:40:40, 528472 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: Yes
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

            Description: Realtek HD Audio output
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_15BD3112&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
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            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
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            Other Files:
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         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [CF00]
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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            Description: Realtek HD Digital input
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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            Description: Realtek HD Audio Input
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: RtkHDAud.sys
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      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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Minor but in DA, it is not allowing me to change country

[Enker]

Without the test version, I am fine. With it, I have trouble hearing people over Vox, because the effects slider does not affect the plane sounds when someone is speaking.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 6/25/2010, 21:43:09
       Machine name: MAROON
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.               
       System Model: Dell DXG051                 
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          Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
             Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
          Page File: 1624MB used, 6560MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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[guncrasher]

on master volume (left side) if you select head set bottom option then there's a bug where u can only select one box at a time by that I mean well look at the picture, left side u can only select one option unless you close then come back in.  btw frame rate seem to be ok now.  havent flown thru smoke which is what lowered mine before.  and I am using youtube songs,  firefox on, and all the goodies just to push the limit.

semp




new update flew right on field with lots of smokes about 15 cons/friendlies planes and fr went into the 30's.  I noticed it was mostly when somebody was on vox.  have film if needed.  sound again is awesome, with only few problems in the first 30 seconds or so of flight when vox is not really clear.  then it is awesome, but fr goes way down.

semp