any idea?

[lulu]

Some planes seems more 'plane' then others.

After some loops vs them, they don't seem to burn a drop of energy but they have the
ability to climb, climb, climb, ....

Any idea?

[fbWldcat]

109K-4? N1K2-J? 190? Teh bestest plane ever teh I-16?

[lulu]

It seems that every plane can do that !!!

The question is: how?

[bj229r]

It seems that every plane can do that !!!

The question is: how?

Trust me, P47's can't.

[Knite]

It seems that every plane can do that !!!

The question is: how?

Completely depends on the plane. Also, it's very common to mis-judge an enemy's "E" or "Energy" state. I know I am not a good judge of that.

There's also some planes that are known for being able to "hang on their propeller" because they are stable at low speeds when their nose is high, such as the P-38.

[fbWldcat]

Trust me, P47's can't.

But at 30,000 it'll turn on a dime 

[dtango]

lulu:

The secret is understanding what this equation means

Ps = (Thrust - Drag) * Velocity / Weight

This is the equation for specific excess power which tells us the time rate of energy change of an airplane for an instant in time.  Here's a thread I posted awhile back on the general concept of energy and energy retention:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,209163.msg2488778.html#msg2488778

In short all planes are not equal and each plane has it's own unique specific excess power profiles.  In other words each plane has it's own unique energy retention fingerprint.  Be very careful not to let that elegant equation fool you into thinking it's a simple matter.

[lulu]

Less drag = less RPM ?

 

[Ack-Ack]

Some planes seems more 'plane' then others.

After some loops vs them, they don't seem to burn a drop of energy but they have the
ability to climb, climb, climb, ....

Any idea?

Yeah, you're running into a better pilot that knows how to use and exploit the strengths of their plane.


ack-ack

[lulu]

Sure !!??


I was waiting for this so usefull comment.     

Tx to All

[TheRapier]

I think lulu is asking how this might be accomplished?

The answer is not a simple one because a fight is really about a lot of variables and not many constants. In your example of a loop, it seems that you are assuming that both pilots are pulling on the pole for all their are worth and yet they both don't equally burn down their E.

The problem is, unless you can see into both cockpits simultaneously, your assumption may not be true. In this case it doesn't matter if the turn is vertical or horizontal. One pilot may be going into lag pursuit which means they aren't pulling as hard, building E to go vertical.

Does the plane have WEP? that will make a difference.

Is one pilot pulling too hard into the buffet and bleeding E? That will make a difference.

Some planes are naturally better at holding on to E provided that they aren't mismanaged. Spits are a good example. Flown right, they can hold onto E in a way that seems unreal to a pilot in another plane.

I hope that helps!

[dtango]

Less drag = less RPM ?

 

Hmmm.  How to answer your question.  Very specifically, a better way to put that is:
EDIT:
Lower airspeed = less parasite drag
Lower airspeed = greater induced drag
Lower g-loading = less induced drag

If you want to relate that to energy retention is an entirely different matter requiring more physics understanding.

Simply put, comparing airplanes, the airplane with greater specific excess power (P_s) will retain energy better than the other.

P_s is determined by the complex interaction between thrust, drag, velocity, and weight for a given flight condition and as they change with time in flight.

[uptown]

Lulu, it sounds to me that you're not building enough E, or burning too much after your merges. It's very important for you to learn to judge your opponents E as well so that you can make adjustments thoughout the fight.
There's so many other factors to consider also. i.e. fuel load, ammo...plane weight, and pure horse power vs whatever you're flying. I'd recommend you spend some time in the DA with some advantanced sticks or some of the trainers in the TA to work on proper merge tactics. I'd probably start with the trainers and work my way up from there.
Pick 1 plane to get familiar flying and learn it's strong and weak points. This will allow you to better understand how to approach each fight differently.

Has anyone ever worked with you on merges and E management?

[The Fugitive]

Lulu, what is your in game name?

[CAP1]

Some planes seems more 'plane' then others.

After some loops vs them, they don't seem to burn a drop of energy but they have the
ability to climb, climb, climb, ....

Any idea?

it's called knowing your airplane, and managing your energy. something which i'm not very good at.