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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2010, 03:21:29 PM »
Potsnpans play much? Haven't seen him one more than once or twice, and I would be interested in getting some help in the C2.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2010, 12:31:21 AM »
Burning the wing tanks does little to help, since your roll rate is hindered by 500+ lbs of 20mm cannons + ammo already. It's a very small amount  of fuel in the wings, and I wouldn't bother switching from auto drain 99 times out of 100.

I was flying the C2 in the MAs for years before it was "popular" (seems all the planes are getting their 15 minutes these days), and from experience:

- NEVER use flaps. EVER. Not even coming over the top of a loop. Better to stall and recover without them than to lower them.

- Don't get TOO slow. Keep it above wallowing-speed and you'll do really well against most planes

- Spits still eat it for breakfast. Just don't be fooled by poorly flown spits. They hold all the cards and should be targeted first and removed from the fight ASAP when you fly a C2.

- Neither is it a great turner nor a great diver, and it also is not that great at very high alts. It simply is a fairly decent plane. Best compromise I could do is describe it as "flies like a 109, fights like a 190" but it really is somewhere smack dab in between the two.

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2010, 12:23:44 PM »
C.205 make nice snacks for P-38s.

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2010, 02:00:17 PM »
From my experience, C205 is an awesome plane.  The only lacking quality is its 4 Minutes of WEP.  If you only use it when going verticle or to extend away, it normally isn't all that big of a disadvantage.

It turns great, as long as you turn it in the verticle with a roll, think 109.  Also, trim your elevator up and it will dance and improve roll rate much like a 109.

It's cannons don't hit well, and I wouldn't suggest using them beyond 200-300yards.
  I've gotten more kills in the thing with well placed .50cal than with the cannons.

Also remember, from the deck to about 4000 feet, this thing can outclimb most anything in the game.  If you have to get low and slow, you can often get your advantage back quicker than your opponent if you can extend.

C205 was my first plane in here, and I still up it every once in a while.  I think it's completely underrated, and I'm always hesitant of going up against one when I see it.  Normally, the pilot knows what they're doing.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2010, 02:16:31 PM »
From my experience, C205 is an awesome plane.  The only lacking quality is its 4 Minutes of WEP.  If you only use it when going verticle or to extend away, it normally isn't all that big of a disadvantage.

It turns great, as long as you turn it in the verticle with a roll, think 109.  Also, trim your elevator up and it will dance and improve roll rate much like a 109.

It's cannons don't hit well, and I wouldn't suggest using them beyond 200-300yards.
  I've gotten more kills in the thing with well placed .50cal than with the cannons.

Also remember, from the deck to about 4000 feet, this thing can outclimb most anything in the game.  If you have to get low and slow, you can often get your advantage back quicker than your opponent if you can extend.

C205 was my first plane in here, and I still up it every once in a while.  I think it's completely underrated, and I'm always hesitant of going up against one when I see it.  Normally, the pilot knows what they're doing.

i've actually found the c2's to be kinda like the 38's.....there is no middle ground. it's either someone that hasn't a clue in it(like me) or it's someone in it that's gonna hand ya back your rump in short order.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2010, 02:59:21 PM »
i've actually found the c2's to be kinda like the 38's.....there is no middle ground. it's either someone that hasn't a clue in it(like me) or it's someone in it that's gonna hand ya back your rump in short order.

really?  I find the C.205 to be one of the easier planes to face in the P-38.


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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2010, 03:17:41 PM »
really?  I find the C.205 to be one of the easier planes to face in the P-38.


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Think he was saying either they are well flown or not...like the B-38 either well flown or not.  He wasn't comparing the planes to eachother.

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2010, 03:31:57 PM »
Think he was saying either they are well flown or not...like the B-38 either well flown or not.  He wasn't comparing the planes to eachother.

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you are exactly right.


and for the record, although i've been in the 38 for awhile now, i don't find anything to be an easy kill in it.....unless it's me.  :noid
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2010, 04:10:37 PM »
Think he was saying either they are well flown or not...like the B-38 either well flown or not.  He wasn't comparing the planes to eachother.

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And I'm speaking from a reference to a plane vs. plane comparison not a pilot vs. pilot comparison.

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2010, 04:21:25 PM »
And I'm speaking from a reference to a plane vs. plane comparison not a pilot vs. pilot comparison.

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i was talking pilot vs pilot.

the thing i find in the 38, is that the pile-it is either VERY good, or VERY bad. there doesn't seem to be an "in between"

i find the same to be true to the c2's i come across.

other planes, i seem to find all skill levels, although with planes like the spits, and hurris it's kinda hard to tell.

 i've seen a few more people flying the p47, which i think is cool.

 i think the 190's get a bad rap, because most that fly them, drop, shoot, and run. it's rare to find a good fight against a 190 pile-it, although i have.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2010, 04:29:33 PM »
I enjoy the 205 a lot.  the 202 not so much so.  Typically I like just about everything the game has to offer but that damned 38G...I need to take that thing out more often. 
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2010, 04:34:47 PM »
I enjoy the 205 a lot.  the 202 not so much so.  Typically I like just about everything the game has to offer but that damned 38G...I need to take that thing out more often. 

i have a lot of trouble in the "G". if i manage to saddle up on a con, i can't see crap out through that dam bullet proof shield they put in there. i find that i can't afford mistakes as much in the g, as i can in the j, due to its lack of power compared to the j.

 someday, i'm gonna start flying the g till i can survive in it.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2010, 04:37:45 PM »
Well, CAP1, from their possition, slashing attacks make good solid sense. If you can outrun 90% of the planes, why turn? Even the 190A5 (second slowest on the deck) can almost hit 375 at 5k, which is pretty good.
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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2010, 04:38:46 PM »
The 202 is a blast, and one of my favorite screwing around rides.  Leave the wing mounted .303s at home.  All they do is make you think you are hitting with the .50s when you are in fact not.  The increase in damage is negligible, and you may as well shed the few extra lbs. 

Any damage you can inflict with a 202 is important.  The weight of the 7.7s doesn't seem to affect performance in the least (which is kind of surprising, the plane doesn't weigh very much), so I've always thought it helps to bring them along.  The weird ammunition for the 12.7s requires you to be at 7.7 range anyhow to get the desired effect, so I just set the covergence for all four at 200 yards.

That said, I find that most of the few kills I get in a 202 are caused by the other guy auguring.

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Re: C2 Drivers
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2010, 04:51:22 PM »
Well, CAP1, from their possition, slashing attacks make good solid sense. If you can outrun 90% of the planes, why turn? Even the 190A5 (second slowest on the deck) can almost hit 375 at 5k, which is pretty good.

i wish i could remember the dudes name.......flying an a5.......we merged at about 5k alt. the fight went slightly downhill, which i didn't want, as i was bordering on going too fast.
 the fight lasted 3 or 4 minutes i think. this dude turned that thing like it was a zeek. i had several fights against him, and everyone was a friggin blast.....inclulding the ones i lost.

 i fought against buldog2 in a 190 a week or so ago. it was a running fight. he kept his speed up well, as we were on the deck. in the end, i got him, by sheer luck, but again.......he turned that thing VERY nicely.

 if you know how to do it, anything can turn pretty well.
 if all they do is run, how are they gonna learn to do anything else?
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