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Offline morfiend

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 So I took the time to read through Gaston's post and a couple of things seem to have me scratching my head. :uhoh

 The most striking thing is it seems that Gaston thinks having a high corner speed is a good thing,or am I reading this wrong?
 He then questions Badboy as to why more engine power would make a difference or again am I wrong on this?


 One last thing,I might be wrong again so bare with me but I thought corner speed was defined as the lowest possible speed at which an airframe would pull 6 G's.


     Discuss!                                                                                                    :lol


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No, he's not arguing about technical aspects of the game that would be more commonly associated with that kind of argument.  Gaston is trying to argue the physics of the flight model but the problem is 1) he doesn't have a concept of the physics 2) He doesn't play AH (nor ever has) so doesn't know how our planes perform 3) a lack of understanding of the most basic of flight terms (he had no idea what a vertical turn meant).

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So he is saying that our planes are undermodeled but has never actually flown them? There might be a few flaws to that logic.
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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2010, 12:31:58 AM »
So he is saying that our planes are undermodeled but has never actually flown them? There might be a few flaws to that logic.

Yep, in essence he's saying X is broken without ever seeing X.


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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2010, 12:41:50 AM »
Need to try something before you can complain about it.


LOL

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2010, 08:24:58 AM »
It's worse than that. He doesn't think his reading of anecdotes about X corresponds with the physics around X, so physics must be wrong.
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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2010, 10:06:53 AM »
Gaston : Just try the damn game FFS, we'll hear your complains after
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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2010, 01:33:47 PM »
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
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Ahhh at last I am learning not to. I may have to write it again 100 more times to remember.

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2010, 02:05:05 PM »
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....
I will not debate physics with ....


Ahhh at last I am learning not to. I may have to write it again 100 more times to remember.

HiTech

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2010, 02:31:16 PM »
Come on HiTech Tell us who they are and get it off your chest Buddy :)

Even you should be able to figure out who HiTech is referring to.

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2010, 02:33:18 PM »
Even you should be able to figure out who HiTech is referring to.

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I can but i want names as to know im not alone :lol
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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2010, 02:39:04 PM »
Even you should be able to figure out who HiTech is referring to.

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Yes i can but i want names so i know im not alone :lol
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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2010, 02:42:32 PM »

Darn DOUBLE POST NO SORRY now a TRIPLE POST :D
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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2010, 05:55:15 PM »
Just need to look no further than who posted this thread.

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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2010, 11:07:17 PM »
I'm offering needle nose pliers in this thread only, $39.95 a pair. Remember, cut the barb off first....................
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Re: Johnny Johnson, maths and the 1989 Society of Test Pilot report; revisited.
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2010, 10:10:41 AM »
In other news, Tropical Storm "Gaston" forms out in the Atlantic...





Coincidence or an omen of where this thread is headed?   :devil
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